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Offline Mr Gray

Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #180 on: June 10, 2016, 08:14:26 AM »
No it isn't.

Just hearsay, and no more.

#read the whole thread...particularly the posts by John...there was a deal offered

Offline Mr Gray

Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #181 on: June 10, 2016, 08:16:18 AM »


in most countries  doing a  deal witha suspect/s is illegal im sure its the same in portugal

it isn't in the UK as we know........the pj don't seem to be too bothered about breaking the law and in the colin stagg case in the uk the police were criticised for their attempts to extractt a confession..it is common practice world wide

stephen25000

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Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #182 on: June 10, 2016, 08:18:37 AM »
#read the whole thread...particularly the posts by John...there was a deal offered

I have.

John gave his opinion.

No more.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #183 on: June 10, 2016, 08:20:46 AM »
I have.

John gave his opinion.

No more.

john posted...

Before anyone gets carried away, the PJ never made any offer directly to the parents, it was Carlos who communicated the possibility of a 'deal' the night before the arguido interviews.  Obviously he had been in discussion and briefed by the PJ and this had arisen as a possibility.



stephen25000

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Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #184 on: June 10, 2016, 08:26:47 AM »
john posted...

Before anyone gets carried away, the PJ never made any offer directly to the parents, it was Carlos who communicated the possibility of a 'deal' the night before the arguido interviews.  Obviously he had been in discussion and briefed by the PJ and this had arisen as a possibility.

A third hand report.

Again, 'deals' are not legal in Portuguese law.

and no offer was made to the parents.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #185 on: June 10, 2016, 08:29:30 AM »
A third hand report.

Again, 'deals' are not legal in Portuguese law.

and no offer was made to the parents.

there is ample evidence to prove an offer was made by teh pj

stephen25000

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Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #186 on: June 10, 2016, 08:32:26 AM »
there is ample evidence to prove an offer was made by teh pj

No there isn't.

Hearsay is not evidence.

You need verification.

So where is that dave ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #187 on: June 10, 2016, 08:36:25 AM »
No there isn't.

Hearsay is not evidence.

You need verification.

So where is that dave ?
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#it is evidence...thats why its called hearsay evidence..

stephen25000

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Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #188 on: June 10, 2016, 08:40:19 AM »
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#it is evidence...thats why its called hearsay evidence..

Unverified.

Offline Benice

Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #189 on: June 10, 2016, 08:46:55 AM »
No there isn't.

Hearsay is not evidence.

You need verification.

So where is that dave ?

This is not a credible argument IMO.     Everything Amaral says about the case is based on 2nd hand information as he never had any personal interaction with the McCanns himself.     Therefore theoretically -  if everything the McCanns say is dismissed as  'hearsay' then surely that must also apply to Amaral.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #190 on: June 10, 2016, 08:49:50 AM »
This is not a credible argument IMO.     Everything Amaral says about the case is based on 2nd hand information as he never had any personal interaction with the McCanns himself.     Therefore theoretically -  if everything the McCanns say is dismissed as  'hearsay' then surely that must also apply to Amaral.

Your first line say everything.

Why did he need personal interaction with the mccanns ?

Offline Benice

Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #191 on: June 10, 2016, 09:53:28 AM »
Your first line say everything.

Why did he need personal interaction with the mccanns ?

My post was not about whether Amaral needed to have personal interaction with the McCanns - it was to point out that he didn't.

In that case, all his opinions, conclusions etc about the case can only have been made from information reported to him by third parties.

Apparently - according to some this is hearsay.

IMO

 

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #192 on: June 10, 2016, 10:04:34 AM »
My post was not about whether Amaral needed to have personal interaction with the McCanns - it was to point out that he didn't.

In that case, all his opinions, conclusions etc about the case can only have been made from information reported to him by third parties.

Apparently - according to some this is hearsay.

IMO


He observed them.

He did not need to be in the room to observe them.

Offline Benice

Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #193 on: June 10, 2016, 10:14:44 AM »


He observed them.

He did not need to be in the room to observe them.

How and when did this happen?   Please elaborate.
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: According to Kate McCann the choice was accidental killng or homicide.
« Reply #194 on: June 10, 2016, 11:18:48 AM »
there is ample evidence to prove an offer was made by teh pj

Provide it then.
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