Opium Poppies Grown at WHF?

[Holly Goodhead]

Obviously Nevill was a drug lord and two Essex Colombians were after him for dealing on their patch. 

Many a word said in jest!

[Caroline]

Many a word said in jest!

Well, I sincerely hope you were joking.

[Holly Goodhead]

Here's an excerpt from CC's book but like most aspects of this case it's ambiguous and not straightforward!

CC said JB told DS Jones he refused to say anything about the drugs.  CC assumed JB was referring to a possibility SC was involved with drugs through Freddy.   Whereas DS Jones assumed JB was referring to the opium poppies.

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[Holly Goodhead]

Well, I sincerely hope you were joking.

We've been all through this before Caro and noone can explain the opium poppies.

[Caroline]

We've been all through this before Caro and noone can explain the opium poppies.

No Holly, they have explained but you refuse (like a lot of other things) to accept anything other than your own theory. To suggest that Nevill was growing these poppies illegally in full view of anyone and everyone is fanciful. I suppose he had a sweatshop in the barn full of trafficked slaves to refine it for him and an army of street sellers? Mind you, I'm sure Jeremy would have been happy to manage that side of things - pity Nevill didn't suggest it, he may never have been shot and Bamber would have been inside as a drugs's baron instead of a ..... 

[Holly Goodhead]

No Holly, they have explained but you refuse (like a lot of other things) to accept anything other than your own theory. To suggest that Nevill was growing these poppies illegally in full view of anyone and everyone is fanciful. I suppose he had a sweatshop in the barn full of trafficked slaves to refine it for him and an army of street sellers? Mind you, I'm sure Jeremy would have been happy to manage that side of things - pity Nevill didn't suggest it, he may never have been shot and Bamber would have been inside as a drugs's baron instead of a ..... 

Who has explained?

I don't have any firm theories on the opium poppies.

The poppies were not grown in full view of anyone and everyone.

I don't criticise your beliefs/theories re aspects of the case eg wallet, trailer, NB sleeping in SC's bed with SC sleeping with June on 7th Aug.

[G-Unit]

G-Unit I'm sure I've seen you and Sadie discuss drug production on MM board although I've no idea in what context.  Any thoughts on opium poppies grown at WHF?

Opium poppies are grown in that part of the country;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum#/media/File:Poppy_Fields_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1361923.jpg

A licence was mentioned, which suggests medicinal use perhaps? Morphine and other drugs come from these plants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum

[Caroline]

Opium poppies are grown in that part of the country;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum#/media/File:Poppy_Fields_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1361923.jpg

A licence was mentioned, which suggests medicinal use perhaps? Morphine and other drugs come from these plants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum

It's all been said before, Holly would rather believe Nevill was a drug kingpin.

[Holly Goodhead]

Opium poppies are grown in that part of the country;
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum#/media/File:Poppy_Fields_-_geograph.org.uk_-_1361923.jpg

A licence was mentioned, which suggests medicinal use perhaps? Morphine and other drugs come from these plants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papaver_somniferum

Yes.  It's very odd because JB told Dr Craig on 7th Aug that the farm had a licence to produce opium for the pharma ind but in this country the first licence granted to a UK pharma Co to produce opium in UK didn't take place until noughties.  And the farms are not licenced it is the pharma co.  The farm    simply provides the land for the pharma co to grow the poppies.

If you're interested we went over it all in some detail on this thread.

[Nicholas]

Who has explained?

I don't have any firm theories on the opium poppies.

The poppies were not grown in full view of anyone and everyone.

I don't criticise your beliefs/theories re aspects of the case eg wallet, trailer, NB sleeping in SC's bed with SC sleeping with June on 7th Aug.

Scipio here http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7256.msg335937#msg335937

“It said Craig thought there was a small field of opium poppy.  That doesn't mean he was right about it being opium poppy he could have been wrong.

Was Dr Craig an expert on opium poppies?

[Holly Goodhead]

It's all been said before, Holly would rather believe Nevill was a drug kingpin.

I think I also put forward a number of other theories too.

[Caroline]

Who has explained?

I don't have any firm theories on the opium poppies.

The poppies were not grown in full view of anyone and everyone.

I don't criticise your beliefs/theories re aspects of the case eg wallet, trailer, NB sleeping in SC's bed with SC sleeping with June on 7th Aug.

I'm not accusing Nevill of being an illegal grower of opium. You can criticise if you like.

[Caroline]

I think I also put forward a number of other theories too.

He obviously had permission to grow them, I posted evidence of it ages ago but it wasn't good enough. Nevill was renowned for growing unusual crops.

[Holly Goodhead]

Scipio here http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7256.msg335937#msg335937

“It said Craig thought there was a small field of opium poppy.  That doesn't mean he was right about it being opium poppy he could have been wrong.

Was Dr Craig an expert on opium poppies?

Scipio was knowledgeable about firearms but I don't see what makes him an authority on opium poppies grown in the UK?

[Nicholas]

It's all been said before, Holly would rather believe Nevill was a drug kingpin.

Have posted on this before,

“they need to warp their very perception of reality and challenge obvious facts in order to defend their not being wrong in the first place”