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Offline Brietta

Re: Attempted abduction of a British child on Costa de Almeria, Spain.
« Reply #60 on: July 02, 2016, 01:31:01 AM »
With all due respect, Brietta, I don't think newspaper reporters monitor TripAdvisor, nor do they follow people they have never heard of on Twitter or Facebook.  Those connections cannot be ruled out as someone who knows the family may have heard that way and forwarded it to the reporter.

"They no doubt contacted the newspaper for the reason of raising awareness."  This attributes both an action and a motive to the family, without evidence to support either.

This story is still stuck with no more than the same information in 2 red tops, plus a re-hash in a regional English paper in southern Spain.  Why have no heavyweight newspapers touched this alleged scandal?

If the father had been unable to safeguard his child and the abductor had been successful, I daresay we would have heard more about it.

There are many instances of unsuccessful and successful abductions occurring in this part of the world. 

I think it is sad that the word of parents who have experienced such a traumatic event is automatically devalued because sometime in 2007 a Portuguese detective derided and decreed that a missing child could not possibly have been a victim of kidnap.

It does happen.
It doesn't only happen in Spain and Portugal ... it happens throughout the world ... and it happens in the most extraordinary and opportunistic circumstances.



Malaga carnival blighted by attempted abduction
A 47-year-old man is behind bars after video footage captured the moment he tried to kidnap a three-year-old boy
12.02.16 - 13:00 - JUAN CANO | MALAGA

Malaga carnival blighted by attempted abduction
The events took place in the centre of Malaga. :: F. SILVA

She only turned her back for a couple of seconds, but by that point her three-year-old son was already gone. “She started shouting desperately, calling the name of her son,” said a witness.

In stark contrast to the festivities going on around them in Plaza de la Constitución at 8.20pm on Saturday, family members and friends frantically began their search for the missing toddler.

However, just a few metres away, Juan Diego, who was participating in the carnival as part of a troupe, had, on seeing the child in the man’s arms, intercepted him at the entrance of Calle Granada, until the family arrived.

The suspected child snatcher, dressed as an FBIagent and carrying toy handcuffs, was questioned by the Local Police after the commotion stirred among the crowd. He was then placed into police custody after a number of witness statements testified against him.

The alleged perpetrator, of Spanish nationality and a Malaga resident, claimed that he had seen the child wandering unattended and was looking after him.

However, new evidence has emerged in the form of a video recorded by a relative which counters the accused’s version of events.
Following the viewing of the 20-second clip at the hearing in Malaga on Monday, the prosecution called for the 47-year-old’s provisional admission to prison, a petition ratified by the magistrate.
http://www.surinenglish.com/20160212/news/costasol-malaga/malaga-carnival-blighted-attempted-201602121300.html


Kidnapping paedophile arrested in Santander
Published: 24 Sep 2014 10:10 GMT+02:00

Updated: Police in the Spanish city of Santander have arrested a man suspected of kidnapping five children in Madrid over the last 12 months. The suspect has a criminal record, previously spending seven years in jail for sexually abusing a young girl.

Spain to set up UK-style paedophile register (28 Apr 14)

His arrest, the product of an extensive police investigation, came in the early hours of Wednesday morning, Spain's Interior Minister Jorge Fernández Díaz said in a press conference on Wednesday.

The 42-year-old man is a Madrid resident of Spanish nationality but his identity remains unknown.

The suspect is thought to have kidnapped and abused at least five children in Madrid's Ciudad Lineal since September 2013. There had been three further attempted kidnappings, the interior minister said.

In at least two of the cases in question, children were taken to an apartment where they are thought to have been sexually abused. The paedophile then washed the children and returned them to the locations several kilometres from where they had been taken.

Police said they were now planning to search two apartments belong to the man's family as they continued their investigations.

The suspect in detention has a criminal record including prior convictions for sexual assault, kidnapping and armed robbery, Fernández Díaz said.
http://www.thelocal.es/20140924/child-kidnapper-arrested-santander-spain-paedophile
« Last Edit: July 02, 2016, 01:35:14 AM by Brietta »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Attempted abduction of a British child on Costa de Almeria, Spain.
« Reply #61 on: July 02, 2016, 02:00:05 AM »
Quite an accusation that the gbp suspect  stories because of a man in portugal

Pathetic


Id look to the uk media luv if i were you

Offline slartibartfast

“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline sadie

Re: Attempted abduction of a British child on Costa de Almeria, Spain.
« Reply #63 on: July 02, 2016, 09:08:06 AM »
Dont accuse people of abuse by commenting your cmments are silly, you posted the upset comment , not just to me or one person, but a whole heap of people,  is in itself abusive by your terms and more

I and Im sure many others are NOT upset that a little boy was attempted to be snatched, because it proves its possible, its very abusive of you to even suggest it, hope you can now see

Fact remains it has no smilarity with Madeleines fate

As for dictating to me how I should post, perhaps you might want to revisit your posts whch almost always contain ad homs goads and accusations, pot kettle dear

how do you know smithman was not comng from the creche? It was the right direction as opposed to crecheman

As for following Amaral that is such a weak argument it deserves no comment

May I remind you that only two days ago you called me "silly woman".  Mods have removed it now.  Is this some campaign to keep demeaning me, or it it just a "one two-off" ?

The "upset" comment is not abusive to anyone specific and is NOT abusive anyhow.  Don't twist things into different meanings.

The similarity is with someone going into a * holiday * apartment /hotel on the Iberian Peninsular and taking a child that is not theirs.  I am surprised that you couldn't see that. 

Additionally it indicates that having a parent with the child, does not deter some criminals.



Dictating to YOU ?

YOU are always dictating to others ... and one of your favourite expressions is something like "Address the post, not the Poster".  You have used that expression repeatedly throughout your time on this forum, but here you are doing exactly that.  Double standards.  Different for you, eh ?


Smithman was NOT coming from the direction of the crèche.  Neither was Tannerman. 
What you are saying is totally incorrect.  Why are you spreading misinformation?

Offline mercury

Re: Attempted abduction of a British child on Costa de Almeria, Spain.
« Reply #64 on: July 04, 2016, 12:59:03 AM »
May I remind you that only two days ago you called me "silly woman".  Mods have removed it now.  Is this some campaign to keep demeaning me, or it it just a "one two-off" ?

The "upset" comment is not abusive to anyone specific and is NOT abusive anyhow.  Don't twist things into different meanings.

The similarity is with someone going into a * holiday * apartment /hotel on the Iberian Peninsular and taking a child that is not theirs.  I am surprised that you couldn't see that. 

Additionally it indicates that having a parent with the child, does not deter some criminals.



Dictating to YOU ?

YOU are always dictating to others ... and one of your favourite expressions is something like "Address the post, not the Poster".  You have used that expression repeatedly throughout your time on this forum, but here you are doing exactly that.  Double standards.  Different for you, eh ?


Smithman was NOT coming from the direction of the crèche.  Neither was Tannerman. 
What you are saying is totally incorrect.  Why are you spreading misinformation?

Unless you have info that proves that more attempted child abductions are of tourists then no, no connection

As for Smithman, I concede it would have ben a convoluted way home from the creche though iirc there was a thread that showed you couldnt get from the creche to where he was headed directly, I may be wrong on that, somene might remember!

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Attempted abduction of a British child on Costa de Almeria, Spain.
« Reply #65 on: July 04, 2016, 01:08:46 AM »
Unless you have info that proves that more attempted child abductions are of tourists then no, no connection

As for Smithman, I concede it would have ben a convoluted way home from the creche though iirc there was a thread that showed you couldnt get from the creche to where he was headed directly, I may be wrong on that, somene might remember!
It is possible that the municipal works underway meant it made sense to take a bit of a diversion, but the problem is there are no OC properties out that way.
What's up, old man?

Offline mercury

Re: Attempted abduction of a British child on Costa de Almeria, Spain.
« Reply #66 on: July 04, 2016, 01:16:39 AM »
It is possible that the municipal works underway meant it made sense to take a bit of a diversion, but  the problem is there are no OC properties out that way.

OK thanks for that SIL
So the question remans who could smithman have been if not obviously a tourist usingMW/OC creche...he may have been one and had friends he was staying with that night, but Ive had enough of speculative avenues as they tend to murky the waters hstead of clarify alot of the time

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Attempted abduction of a British child on Costa de Almeria, Spain.
« Reply #67 on: July 04, 2016, 06:58:51 PM »
OK thanks for that SIL
So the question remans who could smithman have been if not obviously a tourist usingMW/OC creche...he may have been one and had friends he was staying with that night, but Ive had enough of speculative avenues as they tend to murky the waters hstead of clarify alot of the time

...but it is strange tthat Tanner man took a while to come forward to be illimantated and smithman is equally shy it would seem. If he was in the area as an innocent  local he would have come forward,similarily is he were a tourist he could not have missed all these years not knowing it was im and his child who was seen that night. This story is gobal FGS.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Attempted abduction of a British child on Costa de Almeria, Spain.
« Reply #68 on: July 04, 2016, 07:09:07 PM »
...but it is strange tthat Tanner man took a while to come forward to be illimantated and smithman is equally shy it would seem. If he was in the area as an innocent  local he would have come forward,similarily is he were a tourist he could not have missed all these years not knowing it was im and his child who was seen that night. This story is gobal FGS.
Not in the way you think in Portugal.
What's up, old man?

Offline mercury

Re: Attempted abduction of a British child on Costa de Almeria, Spain.
« Reply #69 on: July 05, 2016, 01:58:36 AM »
...but it is strange tthat Tanner man took a while to come forward to be illimantated and smithman is equally shy it would seem. If he was in the area as an innocent  local he would have come forward,similarily is he were a tourist he could not have missed all these years not knowing it was im and his child who was seen that night. This story is gobal FGS.

Tannerman filled in a questionnaire in 2007 for leicester police in the uk
Smithman is the shy one
If I were him and innocent I would  have made an untraceable call to police to say it wasnt me...who would want to get trapped in that poisonous quagmire