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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #90 on: July 09, 2016, 06:18:24 PM »
WE have  a mass of talent in this country but for so long we have pandered to the  lets have quotas and embrace multiculturalism..... well it is time to keep our home grown talent, encourage science,maths and other worth while subjects. We are treating our own people with utter contemp by suggesting we can't live or survive without immigrants. well lets put that to the test. All immigrants who have a science or can earn above 30k should be allowed to stay and others who can't support themselves can go. We don't want our cash to be spent on wasted people we should use  it,and spend it on those who are productive and hard working. Lets get our reward system back to where it used to be! It is outrageous that a Australian couple with 2 children earn over 65k per year have their own home, pay tax and other come from AFRICA to get free aids treatment, and free education, free housing..give nothing back. One 'family' has 17 members 5 single mothers, 12 houses...a financial drain.  why not apply for jobs and come over legally ike the Australian family?
« Last Edit: July 10, 2016, 01:50:29 PM by John »
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Offline Carana

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #91 on: July 09, 2016, 06:27:44 PM »
They all have jobs and nice lives? OK The illegal immigrants could be shipped across the channel to France  as Germany wants them all. 8(>(( According to Mummy Merkel.

Seriously you do know that illegal immigrants are not allowed to work? they get everything FREE. you would not believe how much money is spent on one family per week.  meanwhile white scroungers on benefit, who had the audacity to be made redundant or are finding it difficult to find a job are kicked to the kerb. Oh we should send them lazy whities to Africa and keep the hard working honest illegal immigrants?

Are you sure that you're not confusing illegal immigrants, asylum-seekers and legal migrants?

What do you mean by "whities", btw?

Why don't some of the native benefit scroungers (the real scroungers, à la Philpot) go pick strawberries?
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36702235

Offline Carana

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #92 on: July 09, 2016, 06:32:50 PM »
WE have  a mass of talent in this country but for so long we have pandered to the  lets have quotas and embrace multiculturalism..... well it is time to keep our home grown talent, encourage science,maths and other worth while subjects. We are treating our own people with utter contemp by suggesting we can't live or survive without immigrants. well lets put that to the test. All immigrants who have a science or can earn above 30k should be allowed to stay and others who can't support themselves can go. We don't want our cash to be spent on wasted people we should use  it,and spend it on those who are productive and hard working. Lets get our reward system back to where it used to be! It is outrageous that a Australian couple with 2 children earn over 65k per year have their own home, pay tax and other come from AFRICA to get free aids treatment, and free education, free housing..give nothing back. One 'family' has 17 members 5 single mothers, 12 houses...a financial drain.  why not apply for jobs and come over legally ike the Australian family?

There are abuses in every system and I'm not sure which cases you are referring to.

And if you do find cites from reliable sources, perhaps you could also compare those cases to the statistics of the overall legal migrant contribution to the economy.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #93 on: July 09, 2016, 07:00:56 PM »
There are abuses in every system and I'm not sure which cases you are referring to.

And if you do find cites from reliable sources, perhaps you could also compare those cases to the statistics of the overall legal migrant contribution to the economy.

It is my observation on a particular community. re the stats; there are none availiabe that can be trusted. re illegal immigrants who have presented themselves has one figure but those still at large are not counted.

As I have stated illegal immigrants are not allowed to work!  so contribute zero.  It is also worth remebering that the stats for 'working immigrants' working part time and claiming tax credits and child benefit  are not counted at net beneficiaries even thiough they are! so not that great a contribution in the bigger picture.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Carana

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #94 on: July 09, 2016, 07:10:33 PM »
It is my observation on a particular community. re the stats; there are none availiabe that can be trusted. re illegal immigrants who have presented themselves has one figure but those still at large are not counted.

As I have stated illegal immigrants are not allowed to work!  so contribute zero.  It is also worth remebering that the stats for 'working immigrants' working part time and claiming tax credits and child benefit  are not counted at net beneficiaries even thiough they are! so not that great a contribution in the bigger picture.

Asylum seekers are not generally allowed to work (and that applies to other countries).

http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN01908

By definition, statistics are hard to find about illegal immigrants as they tend to be paid cash in hand.

Working legal migrants pay taxes and contributions like everyone else.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #95 on: July 09, 2016, 07:11:33 PM »
Are you sure that you're not confusing illegal immigrants, asylum-seekers and legal migrants?

What do you mean by "whities", btw?

Why don't some of the native benefit scroungers (the real scroungers, à la Philpot) go pick strawberries?
http://www.bbc.com/news/business-36702235

I am not the confused one. You with others are being conned. Asylum seekers are failed illegal immigrants who get caught-dontcha know! We are almost bankrupt, there is not enough to go round. We need to deal with our own issues without running around the globe causing wars and then encouraging a slave trade..oh you don't want to hear about that industry. Way to horrific for you I fear.

 Whities are white skinned people who have no real say in their country due to being silenced, riduculed,undermined by multicultural luvvies. Whities are evil, nasty according to some. However  they are a wee bit miffed because they are suffering hardship while others are under the impression the UK is a rich country- we are borrowing billions just to give to African countries  starving children dictators a nice life thank you very much.

'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #96 on: July 09, 2016, 07:15:27 PM »
Asylum seekers are not generally allowed to work (and that applies to other countries).

http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ResearchBriefing/Summary/SN01908

By definition, statistics are hard to find about illegal immigrants as they tend to be paid cash in hand.

Working legal migrants pay taxes and contributions like everyone else.

Not the ones here for 'free' education or the café waitreses claiming tax credits... please do keep up. Many legal migrants have applied for work and came here for that purpose- they should be able to support themselves without hand outs. or are you against that idea?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Carana

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #97 on: July 09, 2016, 07:29:21 PM »
Not the ones here for 'free' education or the café waitreses claiming tax credits... please do keep up. Many legal migrants have applied for work and came here for that purpose- they should be able to support themselves without hand outs. or are you against that idea?

How would one claim tax credits without being a tax-payer?

Offline Carana

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #98 on: July 09, 2016, 08:03:13 PM »
I am not the confused one. You with others are being conned. Asylum seekers are failed illegal immigrants who get caught-dontcha know! We are almost bankrupt, there is not enough to go round. We need to deal with our own issues without running around the globe causing wars and then encouraging a slave trade..oh you don't want to hear about that industry. Way to horrific for you I fear.

 Whities are white skinned people who have no real say in their country due to being silenced, riduculed,undermined by multicultural luvvies. Whities are evil, nasty according to some. However  they are a wee bit miffed because they are suffering hardship while others are under the impression the UK is a rich country- we are borrowing billions just to give to African countries  starving children dictators a nice life thank you very much.

I think you're sailing a bit close to the wind, there, MTI.

I see that my previous response to you has been deleted.
« Last Edit: July 09, 2016, 08:22:54 PM by Carana »

Offline John

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #99 on: July 09, 2016, 08:27:59 PM »
Why would they, if they had a job and a nice life here already?  Would you, in their shoes??

Illegal immigrants are as the name suggests, illegal.  They have no right to be in the UK never mind work there.  As illegals, they work illegally in businesses operated illegally by others who could well be illegals too.  As illegals they pay no taxes or national insurance contributions since they operate in an underground environment. The vast majority of these people reside in cities like London and hide in communities of their own ilk where detection is highly unlikely.  These ghettos are increasing in number, there are actually areas in our cities where agencies like the Borders Agency find it almost impossible to work in.  Patrols are routinely targeted when they move in to extract these illegals.  Welcome to the 21st century in the UK.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3174610/Welcome-East-London-gang-slashes-tyres-immigration-raid-van-officers-showered-eggs-high-rise.html
« Last Edit: July 10, 2016, 01:54:51 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Carana

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #100 on: July 09, 2016, 08:56:32 PM »
I am not the confused one. You with others are being conned. Asylum seekers are failed illegal immigrants who get caught-dontcha know! We are almost bankrupt, there is not enough to go round. We need to deal with our own issues without running around the globe causing wars and then encouraging a slave trade..oh you don't want to hear about that industry. Way to horrific for you I fear.

 Whities are white skinned people who have no real say in their country due to being silenced, riduculed,undermined by multicultural luvvies. Whities are evil, nasty according to some. However  they are a wee bit miffed because they are suffering hardship while others are under the impression the UK is a rich country- we are borrowing billions just to give to African countries  starving children dictators a nice life thank you very much.

Are you saying that people of white skin should be the only people in the UK? If that's not what you mean, perhaps you could clarify...

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #101 on: July 09, 2016, 09:31:34 PM »
Are you saying that people of white skin should be the only people in the UK? If that's not what you mean, perhaps you could clarify...

If this were implemented there would be a 100% decrease in race related crime in this country.

Which can't be a bad thing can it.
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Offline misty

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #102 on: July 09, 2016, 10:38:59 PM »
If this were implemented there would be a 100% decrease in race related crime in this country.

Which can't be a bad thing can it.

Never going to happen. Even the makers of Cluedo are killing off Mrs White.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ne1lkEEmRCI
« Last Edit: July 09, 2016, 11:12:45 PM by misty »

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #103 on: July 10, 2016, 11:58:44 AM »
Are you saying that people of white skin should be the only people in the UK? If that's not what you mean, perhaps you could clarify...

What I am saying is: In india it is Indians who make the laws, collect tax and distribute the wealth for Indians, In Japan, China, Russia, Africa and many other places no white UK citizen has any say or power over the people in these countries, I have no problem with that. Do you have a problem with white people in the UK ( majority) having a say in who gets into their country and what laws should be discussed before being forced on them? Seriously  sounds a bit rascist to me. No one voted for EU as it has become, no one voted for multicultural society...so I am saying white people should have a say, since they are still the majority in this country, without being questioned and shouted down as racists.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #104 on: July 10, 2016, 01:22:50 PM »
How would one claim tax credits without being a tax-payer?

The very fact that you are unaware of this makes me more determined to defy goody -two- shoes who love everybody and want everybody to live here regardless of their contribution.

 I am now of the impression  that you are totally ignorant on most benefit hand outs and are clueless on how our system works which makes you a not very good person to make descisions on immigration in it's many forms.  No offence intended Carana, but ignorance does breed contempt- which is what we have here in abundance in this country. Those unaffected by the mass immigration are quite happy to sit back and say well you there is no bread for the poor indigenous population-  just let them eat cake..  Marie Anottoinete response to poverty!

So at the last count how many 'Asylum seekers' have the  bob geldolfs and other sympathetic 'stars' getting on housing and feeding these 'poor' people from their own collection of houses and access to Money pits?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin