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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #120 on: July 11, 2016, 04:39:49 PM »
You seem to have forgotten or deliberately omitted the benefits of being in the single market.

No, we would have traded with them anyway, We are global traders, we used to have an empire, we know how to survive and thrive on our own and lets not forget it was France and Germany who were pushing for united states of Europe and this mess we have. They need us Stephen, and we need this.
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

stephen25000

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #121 on: July 11, 2016, 04:43:53 PM »
No, we would have traded with them anyway, We are global traders, we used to have an empire, we know how to survive and thrive on our own and lets not forget it was France and Germany who were pushing for united states of Europe and this mess we have. They need us Stephen, and we need this.

The British Empire plundered other countries and their resources, material and otherwise.

It is about time some woke up to the reality that we share 1 planet with dwindling resources and with an expanding population.

Alfie

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #122 on: July 11, 2016, 04:46:07 PM »
Your side lost the vote
You need to get over it
Our side lost the vote.  We think it's a disaster for the country and we will speak our minds, whilst grudgingly accepting the country's choice.  Why should we be silent on the subject?  Do you honestly believe that if we'd voted to remain that the Eurosceptics would have "got over it"? 

Puh-lease.

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #123 on: July 11, 2016, 05:08:18 PM »
The British Empire plundered other countries and their resources, material and otherwise.

It is about time some woke up to the reality that we share 1 planet with dwindling resources and with an expanding population.


Well we also gave them money, buildings, education, and a whole lot more. I didn't say we were a 'nice' empire but we know how to fight for what we want and what we have, and what we don't want that was the point lol.

Expanding population in the UK is a grave concern of many. The rise in the population can be addressed by contraceptives, sadly some cultures don't ike that Idea...
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Carana

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #124 on: July 11, 2016, 05:29:53 PM »
No, we would have traded with them anyway, We are global traders, we used to have an empire, we know how to survive and thrive on our own and lets not forget it was France and Germany who were pushing for united states of Europe and this mess we have. They need us Stephen, and we need this.


"Used to have a global empire"... well yes, so dd many nations in dusty history books.

We're in 2016.

Could you elucidate your views as to how this situation will work in practice?

stephen25000

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #125 on: July 11, 2016, 05:54:53 PM »

"Used to have a global empire"... well yes, so dd many nations in dusty history books.

We're in 2016.

Could you elucidate your views as to how this situation will work in practice?

It seems Carana that some people are stuck in the past of some golden age, which existed for only a very few.

Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #126 on: July 11, 2016, 06:03:41 PM »

"Used to have a global empire"... well yes, so dd many nations in dusty history books.

We're in 2016.

Could you elucidate your views as to how this situation will work in practice?

At a guess I'd say, it could work something like this....

We'll sell stuff to other countries......& ........ we'll buy stuff from other countries......  & planet earth will continue to rotate, whilst orbiting the sun, & we'll all end up as dust, regardless of how many flags fly in Brussels.



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Offline John

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #127 on: July 11, 2016, 09:51:06 PM »
Our side lost the vote.  We think it's a disaster for the country and we will speak our minds, whilst grudgingly accepting the country's choice.  Why should we be silent on the subject?  Do you honestly believe that if we'd voted to remain that the Eurosceptics would have "got over it"? 

Puh-lease.

The only people who are going to find it tougher after Brexit are Financial Services workers or Investment Bankers based in London who have been ripping the rest of us off for decades protected by successive administrations with their own vested interests. 

And no amnesty for illegals, send them packing regardless of the cost or the means.  There is now an industry in London whereby illegals are bringing other illegals into the country to do menial jobs for peanuts and protection.  Under EU Law they know the chances of being deported if caught are slim.  Time to change all that, take back control, send the illegal immigrants home.

« Last Edit: July 12, 2016, 02:19:13 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Jean-Pierre

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #128 on: July 11, 2016, 10:55:12 PM »
The only people who are going to find it tougher after Brexit are Financial Services workers or Investment Bankers based in London who have been ripping the rest of us off for decades protected by successive administrations with their own vested interests. 

And no amnesty for illegals, send them packing regardless of the cost or the means.  There is now an industry in London whereby illegals are bringing other illegals into the country to do menial jobs for peanuts and protection.  Under EU Law they know the chances of being deported if caught are slim.  Time to change all that, take back control, send the illegal immigrants home.

Which EU law is that John?

Alfie

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #129 on: July 11, 2016, 11:09:56 PM »
The only people who are going to find it tougher after Brexit are Financial Services workers or Investment Bankers based in London who have been ripping the rest of us off for decades protected by successive administrations with their own vested interests. 

And no amnesty for illegals, send them packing regardless of the cost or the means.  There is now an industry in London whereby illegals are bringing other illegals into the country to do menial jobs for peanuts and protection.  Under EU Law they know the chances of being deported if caught are slim.  Time to change all that, take back control, send the illegal immigrants home.
Empty words, clichéd epithets.  It's never going to happen.  But by the time that realisation has well and truly dawned a large proportion of leave voters will be kicking up the daisies anyway.

Offline mercury

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #130 on: July 11, 2016, 11:27:52 PM »
The only people who are going to find it tougher after Brexit are Financial Services workers or Investment Bankers based in London who have been ripping the rest of us off for decades protected by successive administrations with their own vested interests. 

And no amnesty for illegals, send them packing regardless of the cost or the means.  There is now an industry in London whereby illegals are bringing other illegals into the country to do menial jobs for peanuts and protection.  Under EU Law they know the chances of being deported if caught are slim.  Time to change all that, take back control, send the illegal immigrants home.

But alot of thebrexiters have a problem with all immigrants
No legal immigrants are going to be deported
Deporting illegal ones has never happened much, what makes you think its gonna happen now?
The govt in the past has proved to be  schizophrenic in ths regard
Deporting people who were married to a British person and also who had a child, because they didnt quite earn enough (think the figure was 19k) and even though they claimed zero benefits

This countrys immgration policies are all over the shop

Offline John

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #131 on: July 12, 2016, 02:24:03 AM »
Which EU law is that John?

The Human Rights Act, the EU's great panacea.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #132 on: July 12, 2016, 02:25:09 AM »
Empty words, clichéd epithets.  It's never going to happen.  But by the time that realisation has well and truly dawned a large proportion of leave voters will be kicking up the daisies anyway.

It's what most people in the country want, time will tell.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #133 on: July 12, 2016, 02:28:34 AM »
But alot of thebrexiters have a problem with all immigrants
No legal immigrants are going to be deported
Deporting illegal ones has never happened much, what makes you think its gonna happen now?
The govt in the past has proved to be  schizophrenic in ths regard
Deporting people who were married to a British person and also who had a child, because they didnt quite earn enough (think the figure was 19k) and even though they claimed zero benefits

This countrys immgration policies are all over the shop


I agree but much of the failure had to do with abuse of the Human Rights Act by smartarse London lawyers who used every bleddin heart excuse in the book to stop deportations.   It is up to Theresa May to bring in a Bill of Rights tailored to the British citizen, his traditions and values.  It's time this Sharia Law piss and everything which comes with it was put down the toilet once and for all!

These clowns who come across the English Channel illegally know that as it stands at the moment they will not be sent back to where they originated.  They are not refugees, they are economic chancers encouraged to come to London by other economic chancers who are already there and so the cycle continues.  Once in the UK then other family members claim the right to come here too.
 
There are many cases of children being abandoned in the Jungle Camp by parents who make the trip to London illegally and more often than not in the back of a lorry.  Once here they then demand their children are allowed in too for the sake of the family.  Should we just accept this situation or demand something is done about it?
« Last Edit: July 12, 2016, 02:40:03 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Alfie

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Re: Should there be an amnesty for illegal immigrants living in the UK?
« Reply #134 on: July 12, 2016, 09:02:24 AM »
What sort of border controls are planned for Ireland, between the north and Eire?