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Offline Alice Purjorick

Seems the people don't want an unelected PM for the next 4 years!

https://twitter.com/LadyGodiva1066/status/749224688363171840

Well just to put it in perspective Winston Churchill was not elected in 1940 !
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Offline mercury

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/03/britain-general-election-before-article-50

To add to the mix of the summer pudding

Some good points made

If in a political pantomime why not go all the way?


Offline John

Tory leadership hopeful Andrea Leadsom guarantees three million EU citizens the right to remain in the UK as she hits out at rival Theresa May for using them as 'bargaining chips'



By Matt Dathan
Published: 4 July 2016

  • Andrea Leadsom hits out at front-runner Theresa May for failing to guarantee the rights of 3m EU nationals already living in the UK
  • Guarantees EU nationals will be allowed to remain following Brexit
  • But May doesn't want to lose leverage of EU citizens over status of 1.2m British expats living in other EU member states
  • Unlike rivals Leadsom vows to complete Brexit talks as soon as possible
  • UK needs to 'get on with it' and says process should begin in September

EU citizens already living in the UK must be guaranteed the right to stay and must not be used as 'bargaining chips in Brexit negotiations, Tory leadership hopeful Andrea Leadsom said this morning.

She hit out at the front-runner Theresa May for failing to reassure EU migrants that they will not be deported after Britain officially leaves the EU.

Mrs Leadsom, one of the stars of the Brexit campaign, vowed to keep Brexit negotiations with the EU 'as short as possible' if she wins the race to replace David Cameron as prime minister.

She promised to trigger Article 50 - the formal process for leaving the EU - as soon as she becomes prime minister, distancing herself from all four of her rivals in the leadership contest who have said Britain must take its time over Brexit negotiations.





Both Mrs May and leading Brexit campaigner Michael Gove have said they would not start the process of leaving this calendar year but today Mrs Leadsom said there is a 'need to get on with it'.

Mrs Leadsom insisted not everything needs to be negotiated and completed by the end of the two-year limit for leaving the EU, which begins as soon as a country triggers Article 50.

Launching her leadership campaign - which will culminate on September 9 - Mrs Leadsom compared last month's historic vote to leave the EU to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

She predicted that having won 'our freedom back,' the vote will spread a spirit of democracy across Europe as other EU countries demand to leave too. 

As she delivered a key press conference in central London this morning, she sought to reassure uncertainty over the three million EU nationals living in the UK.

'I commit today to guaranteeing the rights of our EU friends who have already come here to live and work,' she said.

'We must give them certainty, there is no way they will be bargaining chips in our negotiations.'

It is a pointed attack on Mrs May, who yesterday said the status of EU citizens living in the UK would be part of Brexit negotiations.

Guaranteeing their right to remain in the UK risks losing a key leverage over the status of 1.2million British expats living in other EU member states, her aides said.

Read more...

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Offline Holly Goodhead

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7370.msg343600#msg343600

"OK, thanks - I thought they were opponents not running partners?  What about news today regarding Leadsom's complete volte-face on the EU from 3 years ago when she was a staunch Remainer?"

Yes they are opponents but as there can only be one winner/PM I hope the loser will accept defeat graciously and they can work as a team. 

AL has done a U turn on the EU but this appears to have been after she carried out extensive research:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4bZUJ2VCx8

She seems less certain about making public her tax returns etc  &%+((£  As a former banker I would be surprised if she hasn't taken full advantage of tax avoidance schemes.
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Offline Angelo222

Andrea Leadsom is the peoples choice, Tory MP's would do well to remember that if they want to stay in a job.
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stephen25000

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Andrea Leadsom is the peoples choice, Tory MP's would do well to remember that if they want to stay in a job.

Peoples choice ??

Which people would that be Angelo ?

stephen25000

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' Andrea Leadsom called for minimum wage and maternity pay to be scrapped for small business'


People working for the UK's smallest businesses would be stripped of their right to a minimum wage, maternity leave and protection from unfair dismissal, under plans previously backed by one of the favourites to become next Tory leader and prime minister.

Speaking in 2012, Andrea Leadsom told the House of Commons that she would like businesses with three employees or fewer to no longer have to comply with any employment regulations.

"I envisage there being absolutely no regulation whatsoever," she said.

"No minimum wage, no maternity or paternity rights, no unfair dismissal rights, no pension rights—for the smallest companies that are trying to get off the ground, in order to give them a chance."

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2016/07/05/minimum-wage-maternity-pay-scrapped-plans-andrea-leadsom

Now is she was stupid enough to try and implement that, would she be the peoples choice Angelo ?

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Perhaps she would have to get her coat.  8(0(*

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Alfie

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Andrea Leadsom is the peoples choice, Tory MP's would do well to remember that if they want to stay in a job.
On what do you base that assertion?

Offline Carana

Tory leadership hopeful Andrea Leadsom guarantees three million EU citizens the right to remain in the UK as she hits out at rival Theresa May for using them as 'bargaining chips'



By Matt Dathan
Published: 4 July 2016

  • Andrea Leadsom hits out at front-runner Theresa May for failing to guarantee the rights of 3m EU nationals already living in the UK
  • Guarantees EU nationals will be allowed to remain following Brexit
  • But May doesn't want to lose leverage of EU citizens over status of 1.2m British expats living in other EU member states
  • Unlike rivals Leadsom vows to complete Brexit talks as soon as possible
  • UK needs to 'get on with it' and says process should begin in September

EU citizens already living in the UK must be guaranteed the right to stay and must not be used as 'bargaining chips in Brexit negotiations, Tory leadership hopeful Andrea Leadsom said this morning.

She hit out at the front-runner Theresa May for failing to reassure EU migrants that they will not be deported after Britain officially leaves the EU.

Mrs Leadsom, one of the stars of the Brexit campaign, vowed to keep Brexit negotiations with the EU 'as short as possible' if she wins the race to replace David Cameron as prime minister.

She promised to trigger Article 50 - the formal process for leaving the EU - as soon as she becomes prime minister, distancing herself from all four of her rivals in the leadership contest who have said Britain must take its time over Brexit negotiations.





Both Mrs May and leading Brexit campaigner Michael Gove have said they would not start the process of leaving this calendar year but today Mrs Leadsom said there is a 'need to get on with it'.

Mrs Leadsom insisted not everything needs to be negotiated and completed by the end of the two-year limit for leaving the EU, which begins as soon as a country triggers Article 50.

Launching her leadership campaign - which will culminate on September 9 - Mrs Leadsom compared last month's historic vote to leave the EU to the fall of the Berlin Wall.

She predicted that having won 'our freedom back,' the vote will spread a spirit of democracy across Europe as other EU countries demand to leave too. 

As she delivered a key press conference in central London this morning, she sought to reassure uncertainty over the three million EU nationals living in the UK.

'I commit today to guaranteeing the rights of our EU friends who have already come here to live and work,' she said.

'We must give them certainty, there is no way they will be bargaining chips in our negotiations.'

It is a pointed attack on Mrs May, who yesterday said the status of EU citizens living in the UK would be part of Brexit negotiations.

Guaranteeing their right to remain in the UK risks losing a key leverage over the status of 1.2million British expats living in other EU member states, her aides said.

Read more...


Where does the 3 million figure come from? And how can she guarantee their right to remain?


OK. A quick check seems as if the 3m figure might actually be more or less factual.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/peoplepopulationandcommunity/populationandmigration/internationalmigration/articles/populationbycountryofbirthandnationalityreport/2015-09-27

However, how can she "guarantee" anything?



In case anyone has selective memory issues... that figure doesn't take into account how many UK expats live overseas.

« Last Edit: July 05, 2016, 03:05:15 PM by Carana »

Alfie

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She can make a lot of empty promises now that she will fail to deliver on if she becomes PM - that's what they all do, let's face it!

Offline Carana

She can make a lot of empty promises now that she will fail to deliver on if she becomes PM - that's what they all do, let's face it!

No one can *guarantee* anything.


They don't even know where they last left their heads, let alone anything else.



Offline Angelo222

Peoples choice ??

Which people would that be Angelo ?

The people chose BREXIT and Andrea is the team leader now that Gove did the dirty on Boris.  I for one most deffo dont want a remainer to hold power.
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De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Carana

Can someone explain to me in syllables of one word or less what the benefits of Brexit are?

Offline Carana

The people chose BREXIT and Andrea is the team leader now that Gove did the dirty on Boris.  I for one most deffo dont want a remainer to hold power.
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OK. Why?