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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #495 on: June 16, 2017, 07:44:38 AM »


PIP was DLA. DLA extended beyond the age of 65. Today it's replacement, PIP, stops at 65. There is a thingy called Care Allowance or some such which is available for those who are just about completely hepless. It leaves a ruck of people over 65 who may find their ability to escape the prison of their own four walls is severely limited because they cannot afford the wherewithall and there is no longer a state funded system to help them.

I don't know a lot about disability allowances, except that they were subjected to cuts too.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #496 on: June 16, 2017, 07:28:30 PM »
I don't know a lot about disability allowances, except that they were subjected to cuts too.

PIP stops at 64
If you were claiming higher mobility allowance before PIP came in you can keep it and all the associated benefits like free car tax etc. If you became less mobile after 65 and after PIP you are entitled to nothing. The official line being [seriously] "once you have retired you don't need to be so mobile so don't need it and people can come in to look after you". As far as I am concerned the jury is still out on "Is my country being run by a bunch of wise men taking the p**s or a bunch of idiots who really mean it".
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #497 on: June 18, 2017, 05:34:37 PM »
Well the thread title seems out of date.

It is now the Tory party tearing itself apart.

How times change, watching Hammond dig the knife into May this morning.


She was going to sack him... *&*%

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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #498 on: June 25, 2017, 07:49:06 AM »

As they say, a week is a long time in politics. The rebel Labour MP's still don't care for their leader, but he's unassailable at the moment. His caring attitude at Grenfell was so right, and now he's smashed it at Glastonbury.

The problem he has is that without him it would all fizzle out. He'd better make sure someone's watching his back, his Shelley quote won't have gone down well in some circles;




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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #499 on: June 30, 2017, 06:19:04 PM »
As they say, a week is a long time in politics. The rebel Labour MP's still don't care for their leader, but he's unassailable at the moment. His caring attitude at Grenfell was so right, and now he's smashed it at Glastonbury.

The problem he has is that without him it would all fizzle out. He'd better make sure someone's watching his back, his Shelley quote won't have gone down well in some circles;





In the light of the events of  last week is Theresa May ahead of the game or just being stupid?
It was nice to see Lord Chingford Skinhead saying the layer under her as it were are pretty well incompetent, should be ignored and the next leader should be recruited from the layer underneath them.
That's why I think she will stay longer than is expected. There's no one of any cop to replace her.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #500 on: July 14, 2017, 09:08:19 PM »
As they say, a week is a long time in politics. The rebel Labour MP's still don't care for their leader, but he's unassailable at the moment. His caring attitude at Grenfell was so right, and now he's smashed it at Glastonbury.

The problem he has is that without him it would all fizzle out. He'd better make sure someone's watching his back, his Shelley quote won't have gone down well in some circles;






What songs did he sing at Gladstonbury?

Do you have any pictures of joyful jerry hugging IRA victims? How about Warrington murder of a child not old enough to know or care about the pope running Ireland, surely there must be one...has he got great snaps crying on the shoulder of the young couple who can't get on the housing list never mind hugging illegal immigrants , sorry economic migrants, living in 2000.00 per month rent free housing. No? didn't think so.
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Re: Is the Labour Party in danger of imploding?
« Reply #501 on: September 26, 2017, 11:00:17 PM »

What songs did he sing at Gladstonbury?

Do you have any pictures of joyful jerry hugging IRA victims? How about Warrington murder of a child not old enough to know or care about the pope running Ireland, surely there must be one...has he got great snaps crying on the shoulder of the young couple who can't get on the housing list never mind hugging illegal immigrants , sorry economic migrants, living in 2000.00 per month rent free housing. No? didn't think so.

I can't work out whether you're anti Corbyn, anti Labour or both. Are council rents as high as 2,000 per month or are you referring to private rents? Private landlords have done very well out of housing benefit payments.

In my area a one-bedroomed council flat costs less than 100 per week or 433 per month. Private renters can pay 750 per month. If a tenant loses their job or falls ill housing benefit will help, but the local limit is 516 per month, so the private tenant would probably lose their flat as well as their job. Capping housing benefits has caused hardship, capping rents would have avoided that.

In 1979 42% of people lived in council housing, now it's around 12%. If the council housing stock had been kept, the costs of housing benefit would have been lower anyway.

I think Corbyn is offering a society where understanding, compassion and encouragement might replace blaming and penalising the unfortunate for their difficulties. A lot of people are inspired by his ideas. Would they work? Well, they did in the 1940's and 1950's. Has 'austerity' worked? No, so why not try a different path.

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