Invoking Article 50

[Miss Taken Identity]

Your comment: "Lets look at opening our very own car plant- buy British only- pinned to the Germans and  French/Japanese car manufacturers doors."

What are you suggesting?

What do you mean by a car plant?

I don't follow.

Trying to think about this.

A brand new type of vehicle with raw materials sourced solely in the UK. Based solely on labour of UK nationals, without foreign investment, with potential export tariffs which would be irrelevant and which would be a "must have" worldwide.

Possible. However, my impression is that spending a few weeks on holiday on the Moon in the next decade or so might be a bit more plausible.

Well look who hasn't been paying attention in class .Last time I looked we had a car industry AND we sold it off to foreigners- that was bad bad. If the EU shut us out we just go else where. simples.That is how it works. That is how it worked BEFORE EU.

You are forgetting we trade with world now ,  are you suggesting China and other world countries are not going to do any trade with us? will the French now pull out of Hinkly point? hell no...Would I cry if they did? Hell no! hahhahaha you make me laugh.

[John]

Well look who hasn't been paying attention in class .Last time I looked we had a car industry AND we sold it off to foreigners- that was bad bad. If the EU shut us out we just go else where. simples.That is how it works. That is how it worked BEFORE EU.

You are forgetting we trade with world now ,  are you suggesting China and other world countries are not going to do any trade with us? will the French now pull out of Hinkly point? hell no...Would I cry if they did? Hell no! hahhahaha you make me laugh.

The EU cannot afford to put tarriffs on the UK because we can go elsewhere, a simple case of customer knows best.  Nissan is already planning bring its parts manufacturing to the UK so not good news for existing EU parts plants...shame 

[John]

The UK has unsustainable debt John, as do the majority of countries around the world.

http://www.nationaldebtclock.co.uk/

P.S. I am not a 'Londoner' John, but I have lived there.

That's not what you told us a few weeks back otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it.  London is not by any stretch of the imagination representative of the UK population as can be seen from organisations like the BBC, Ch4 and Sky who delight in highlighting the fact by using far too many front line presenters from ethnic minorities in their programmes. It has got that bad that a few nights ago I thought I had selected Sky South Africa by mistake.  Maybe it's time we took these services out of London completely.

[stephen25000]

The EU cannot afford to put tarriffs on the UK because we can go elsewhere, a simple case of customer knows best.  Nissan is already planning bring its parts manufacturing to the UK so not good news for existing EU parts plants...shame 

Cobblers.

People will still buy overseas goods, such as the high brand cars from Germany.

That would be a good starter for the hedgehog and BMW drivers classic joke ..

[Alice Purjorick]

That's not what you told us a few weeks back otherwise I wouldn't have mentioned it.  London is not by any stretch of the imagination representative of the UK population as can be seen from organisations like the BBC, Ch4 and Sky who delight in highlighting the fact by using far too many front line presenters from ethnic minorities in their programmes. It has got that bad that a few nights ago I thought I had selected Sky South Africa by mistake.  Maybe it's time we took these services out of London completely.

This is always worth looking at when one starts to lose one's sense of perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom

If one lives in Stoke or Rochdale one will find the figures hard to believe. Are there really that few?
If one lives on the south west coast one will find the figures hard to believe. Are there really that many?

[Angelo222]

Cobblers.

People will still buy overseas goods, such as the high brand cars from Germany.

That would be a good starter for the hedgehog and BMW drivers classic joke ..

If the EU brings in penalties the UK will reciprocate so it achieves absolutely nothing.  The future looks bright, we should have dumped the EU long ago.

[stephen25000]

If the EU brings in penalties the UK will reciprocate so it achieves absolutely nothing.  The future looks bright, we should have dumped the EU long ago.

Where does it look bright then ?

With higher food prices ?

More expensive imports ?

Tax payers paying for Government deals to pay the 10% tariff, to ensure some companies remain in the UK ?

[stephen25000]

For the Brexit lovers, take a little time and read May's now,  not so secret speech to Goldman Sachs.

So what does Brexit mean for her. %&5%£ %&5%£ £5%4%

[John]

For the Brexit lovers, take a little time and read May's now,  not so secret speech to Goldman Sachs.

So what does Brexit mean for her. %&5%£ %&5%£ £5%4%

Well considering she was a remainer not so many weeks ago, she's learning fast 

[stephen25000]

Well considering she was a remainer not so many weeks ago, she's learning fast 

You can dream, but economic reality is already biting home.

[stephen25000]

Here's how reliable May's words are.....


'Theresa May’s claim on NHS funding not true, say MPs'

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/30/theresa-mays-claim-on-health-funding-not-true-say-mps

and there's this............


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/30/theresa-may-lie-and-lied-to-become-prime-minister

[Miss Taken Identity]

This is always worth looking at when one starts to lose one's sense of perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_the_United_Kingdom

If one lives in Stoke or Rochdale one will find the figures hard to believe. Are there really that few?
If one lives on the south west coast one will find the figures hard to believe. Are there really that many?

Always an interesting read, but what is always left out of the equasion is the reasons for refugees coming here. During the secondworld war there was NO free housing, free NHS, Free schools, free money, instead they were met with :cities being bombed, high crime rate,disease and very little food. So those refugees  were like the rest of the population- do or die, there was no special treatment of 'ethnics' bombs were not racially motivated, we were all in it together for a greater cause. Freedom. which with the influx of newer AsianMuslim migrants we are losing freedoms every day- yes the ones we fought for. So forgive us if we just don't want anymore.And we can now disperse with comparisons made in 1940's.

[Alice Purjorick]

Here's how reliable May's words are.....


'Theresa May’s claim on NHS funding not true, say MPs'

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2016/oct/30/theresa-mays-claim-on-health-funding-not-true-say-mps

and there's this............


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/30/theresa-may-lie-and-lied-to-become-prime-minister

No politician would dare tell the truth about the NHS.
I have this built in toggled interlock. When I see a sacred cow I want to shoot it.
We can't  afford the NHS unless:
We start heaving bodies out of it.
We stop GMP and PFI contracts.
Income tax is increased.
If you can afford to pay something you do. ie only life threatening stuff is free at point of use.
Any one without an NHS Number is given a bill to settle up front. "That'll be cash on the barrelhead son
Not part not half but the entire sum. No money down, no credit plan". [ see Gram Parsons]

Real vote catchers there. First party with the neck to put it forward gets my vote.

[stephen25000]

It has just been announced in the High Court, that May does not have the authority/right to trigger Article 50.

What a shame.

It will have to be done at some point through the will of Parliament.

[Angelo222]

It has just been announced in the High Court, that May does not have the authority/right to trigger Article 50.

What a shame.

It will have to be done at some point through the will of Parliament.

The UK Supreme Court and 11 judges will no doubt have a different view.  The idea that elected members can somehow usurp the will of the people is ridiculous!  Parliament is the peoples servant and not the other way round.