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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2025 on: August 24, 2019, 08:09:13 AM »
You claimed to know something, so please explain what you know and how you know it.
To what end?  For you to ridicule me, like Miss Taken did?  There are numerous reasons why people voted to leave the EU, they are all very well known, do you REALLY need me to list them all?
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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2026 on: August 24, 2019, 09:44:36 AM »
To what end?  For you to ridicule me, like Miss Taken did?  There are numerous reasons why people voted to leave the EU, they are all very well known, do you REALLY need me to list them all?

You made a claim so I think you should back it up, with cites. Or withdraw it if you prefer.
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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2027 on: August 24, 2019, 05:43:09 PM »
You made a claim so I think you should back it up, with cites. Or withdraw it if you prefer.
I claimed to know the reasons why people voted for Brexit, what sort of cites would you accept?  A newspaper article quoting Nigel Farage saying “Vertigo Swirl knows the reasons why people voted for Brexit”?
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2028 on: August 25, 2019, 07:45:54 AM »
I claimed to know the reasons why people voted for Brexit, what sort of cites would you accept?  A newspaper article quoting Nigel Farage saying “Vertigo Swirl knows the reasons why people voted for Brexit”?

It's all opinion anyway, whether your's or someone else's. I don't think anyone asked 17 million people the question, do you?
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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2029 on: August 25, 2019, 09:10:08 AM »
It's all opinion anyway, whether your's or someone else's. I don't think anyone asked 17 million people the question, do you?
Of course it’s an opinion that’s why asking for a cite is absurd.  I knew also that any evidence I provided t back up my claim would be met with the equally absurd reply that not all 17 million people were asked individually for their reasons, and that, dear friend, is why I didn’t bother.
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Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2030 on: August 25, 2019, 10:29:10 AM »
Of course it’s an opinion that’s why asking for a cite is absurd.  I knew also that any evidence I provided t back up my claim would be met with the equally absurd reply that not all 17 million people were asked individually for their reasons, and that, dear friend, is why I didn’t bother.

It is also, dear friend, why your claim to know why people voted to leave the EU was absurd.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2031 on: August 25, 2019, 01:02:47 PM »
It is also, dear friend, why your claim to know why people voted to leave the EU was absurd.
I do know and there’s nothing absurd about that.  Do you actually believe there are 17 million different reasons?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2032 on: August 25, 2019, 01:35:16 PM »
I do know and there’s nothing absurd about that.  Do you actually believe there are 17 million different reasons?

No you don't, you just think you do.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2033 on: August 25, 2019, 02:50:02 PM »
No you don't, you just think you do.
No, I actually do.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2034 on: August 26, 2019, 09:00:26 AM »
Here is a helpful diagram of how Corbyn hopes to use a vote of no confidence;

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/520/cpsprodpb/14DA6/production/_108241458_no_confidence_flow_chart_8_aug_19_640-nc.png

His problem starts with the question immediately following the vote of no confidence being carried;

"Is it clear an alternative government commands the majority of the house?"

I suspect that the in-fighting over who should lead a new government will just demonstrate once again that Parliament can't agree on anything at the moment.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49468218

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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2035 on: August 26, 2019, 09:32:48 AM »
Here is a helpful diagram of how Corbyn hopes to use a vote of no confidence;

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/520/cpsprodpb/14DA6/production/_108241458_no_confidence_flow_chart_8_aug_19_640-nc.png

His problem starts with the question immediately following the vote of no confidence being carried;

"Is it clear an alternative government commands the majority of the house?"

I suspect that the in-fighting over who should lead a new government will just demonstrate once again that Parliament can't agree on anything at the moment.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49468218
Which just goes to show why Jeremy Corbyn is such an utter disaster for this country.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2036 on: August 26, 2019, 09:47:04 AM »
In the space of a few weeks we’ve gone from a million to one likelihood of a no-deal Brexit, to “touch and go” - what has changed Boris?  Is it the dawning realisation that you were talking bollocks earlier?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2037 on: August 26, 2019, 11:49:50 AM »
Which just goes to show why Jeremy Corbyn is such an utter disaster for this country.

One definition of a country is 'all the people who live in a country'. In recent years the UK has not been run for the benefit of all those who live here, especially the poor. Corbyn's aim is to redress the balance, which is only a bad thing if you're one of those who has no empathy with those who's lives are a constant struggle.
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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2038 on: August 26, 2019, 02:26:13 PM »
One definition of a country is 'all the people who live in a country'. In recent years the UK has not been run for the benefit of all those who live here, especially the poor. Corbyn's aim is to redress the balance, which is only a bad thing if you're one of those who has no empathy with those who's lives are a constant struggle.
That is not my problem with Jeremy Corbyn.  My problem is that he is leader of a party that offers nothing in the way if an effective opposition to the government, as can be witnessed by the latest opinion polls which put the Tories many points ahead of Labour, incredibly!  Where IS Jeremy Corbyn?  Has he lost his voice??  He doesn’t seem remotely interested in Brexit, what is his position?  What is the position of the Labour Party?  How does it support those who will undoubtedly suffer in the event of a no-deal Brexit?
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #2039 on: August 26, 2019, 02:44:01 PM »
That is not my problem with Jeremy Corbyn.  My problem is that he is leader of a party that offers nothing in the way if an effective opposition to the government, as can be witnessed by the latest opinion polls which put the Tories many points ahead of Labour, incredibly!  Where IS Jeremy Corbyn?  Has he lost his voice??  He doesn’t seem remotely interested in Brexit, what is his position?  What is the position of the Labour Party?  How does it support those who will undoubtedly suffer in the event of a no-deal Brexit?

His problem is probably his MP's refusal to work with their leader. They have made the party ineffective imo. Theresa May had a similar problem and Johnson has yet to test his party support.
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