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Offline Vertigo Swirl

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1905 on: July 10, 2019, 05:26:42 PM »
BBC fact-check on the BoJo-Hunt debate.

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-48931052
What a shit-show that was, pardon me language.
"The answer is that no-one here believes the parents were directly involved in MM's disappearance" - G-Unit.

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1906 on: July 12, 2019, 08:23:24 AM »
Keeping an eye on the Kim Darroch saga.

I hadn't realised who originally published them: none other than Isabel Oakeshott.

Richard Tice:


Darroch has finally made the right decision. The Tory Govt look ridiculous for having tried to defend the indefensible. Now itís time for a pro Brexit businessman to be appointed who can lead a quick US trade deal.
1:06 AM - 10 Jul 2019
https://twitter.com/TiceRichard/status/1148911357787627520



Nigel Farage
‏Verified account @Nigel_Farage
Jul 10

Nigel Farage

The right decision, time put in a non-Remainer who wants a trade deal with America.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1148910732744036354


Nigel Farage
‏Verified account @Nigel_Farage

Kim Darroch is totally unsuitable for the job and the sooner he is gone the better.
https://twitter.com/Nigel_Farage/status/1147793723092344834


Banks:

Arron Banks
‏ @Arron_banks

Arron Banks Retweeted Richard Tice

Thanks for the endorsement, Iíve got a bit on at the moment , I would have thought @LordAshcroft would be ideal given his close relationship with the UK and US government ! @IsabelOakeshott
https://twitter.com/Arron_banks/status/1148923336044568576

Wigmore:

Andy Wigmore
‏ @andywigmore

Andy Wigmore Retweeted Lord Ashcroft

Very persuasive argument from the great Lord to support @Jeremy_Hunt but we need a brexiteer in charge not another @theresa_may and while I agree on almost everything @LordAshcroft has outlined - the time for a @BorisJohnson and @Nigel_Farage coalition is more appealing

https://twitter.com/andywigmore/status/1149274342368468992


Andy Wigmore
‏ @andywigmore
Jul 9

Andy Wigmore Retweeted Channel 4 News

Excellent news - time for @Nigel_Farage 😉

https://twitter.com/andywigmore/status/1148668910327214081

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1907 on: July 12, 2019, 08:27:29 AM »
More importantly, who let them flutter out of a window into Oakeshott's waiting hands?

Leaks happen from time to time, but IMO it was a political coup to get a no-dealer in place. The problem is it undermines the role of the civil service to serve the nation without fear nor favour (whichever government is in place).
« Last Edit: July 12, 2019, 08:40:04 AM by Carana »

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1908 on: July 12, 2019, 09:01:53 AM »
Re Farage:

Leave.EU
‏Verified account @LeaveEUOfficial

Britain's anti-Brexit ambassador to the US is what Donald Trump would call a "bad hombre". He needs to be banished from Washington and replaced by a favourite of the President.

The Special Relationship is at stake. Send in the great man...
https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/1147841952223825920

Slight problem with that.

The role of an ambassador is to represent their own state's interests in the one to which they are posted and that includes informing colleagues / government in their home state of issues considered relevant.

It's not the other way around.

« Last Edit: July 12, 2019, 09:07:08 AM by Carana »

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1909 on: July 12, 2019, 09:37:06 AM »
IMO, Farage seems happy as a back-channel force. He knows he's controversial, admits he doesn't count diplomacy as one of his major skills and IIRC doesn't appear to want the job of ambassador.

I suspect the idea is to bank on a knee-jerk reaction of "anyone has to be better suited than Farage".

At the same time, on another front, Leave.eu is openly helping local groups to get Remain and even moderate Brexiter Conservative MPs deselected. Presumably paving the way for pushing through a no-deal.

Is this what the majority of the 38% of the electorate who voted Leave had in mind?




Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1910 on: July 12, 2019, 08:02:57 PM »
Sigh.


BoJo:
https://twitter.com/BBCPolitics/status/1149734201991806977

He really could have read the whole page of GATT 24 that the ERG brigade have been banging on about. It really isn't that long.

It's here: https://www.wto.org/english/tratop_e/region_e/regatt_e.htm#gatt

And no, not paying bills isn't likely to gain the UK any brownie points - with the EU or any other sensible trading partner.


Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1911 on: July 14, 2019, 02:57:17 PM »
Ah. I was trying to get to the bottom of the Oakeshott / Tice tabloid rumour.

Seems true by Oakeshott's own admission, although she denies that he had seen the cables and was unaware of the source.

Isabel Oakeshott
‏Verified account @IsabelOakeshott

Isabel Oakeshott Retweeted Otto English

So what? It is not a secret. He had nothing to do with my story; has never seen the cables and doesnít know the identity of the source. Next?

https://twitter.com/IsabelOakeshott/status/1150185242097065986

Possibly total coincidence, but possibly a viable lead for the Met to follow... 



Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1912 on: July 15, 2019, 11:01:56 AM »
... meanwhile back at the ranch (EU) we have this from the horses mouth!

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1152531/Brexit-News-Party-MEP-Alexandra-Phillips-Brex-Box-update-latest-youtube

quite the eye opener. And to add to the fun. I asked three  remoaners who their MEP was.. sigh... they didn't know!  go on ye Eu u u u u u
 ...and none could tel me who the  unelected, unknown female is who got the top job.. her name is err um  hmm ^*&&

These are your rulers on top of your own government  you elected!
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1913 on: July 16, 2019, 05:16:49 AM »
Ask May - she and the other national heads of government proposed her as a candidate.

That "top job" (there is more than one) is President of the European Commission, which is the executive branch, i.e., similar to the UK's civil service.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2019, 07:36:25 AM by Carana »

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1914 on: July 17, 2019, 08:08:16 PM »
Ask May - she and the other national heads of government proposed her as a candidate.

That "top job" (there is more than one) is President of the European Commission, which is the executive branch, i.e., similar to the UK's civil service.

Point missed? too much beaurocracy- way too much!

It is NOTHING like the UK civil service,it costs billions more to have these people rule over us.  AND do we really need them to rule over us?
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin

Offline Carana

Re: Brexit has well and truly begun!
« Reply #1915 on: Today at 07:54:06 AM »
Point missed? too much beaurocracy- way too much!

It is NOTHING like the UK civil service,it costs billions more to have these people rule over us.  AND do we really need them to rule over us?

In which ways has the EU "ruled over" one of its largest and most influential members?