Who would trust Bojo or Trump

[Alice Purjorick]

And I was barely aware of the ongoing Trump University saga:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trump_University

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfaLYHCC-HU

The above claim (with several class actions granted) hasn't been tested in court yet, as the trial date on this case, at least, has been set post-election, apparently to avoid a media blitz.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84lUQFvHeDk

And his condo fiasco in Baja is another issue.
http://articles.latimes.com/2009/mar/07/business/fi-trump7


Good heavens, I thought BoJo was "misleading", but he's a teddy bear in comparison.

Sorry Carana I didn't make it beyond the first sentence on Trump University, Trump Institute, Trump Organisation Trump This and Trump That; my mind then wandered to hump and The Finch-Browns :

"Doggy Moore and Hawkeye Pierce. On a morning in December, five months after Hawk’s arrival in Spruce Harbor, Dr. Moore said to Dr. Pierce: “Boy, do you make house calls?” “I don’t rule them out,” Hawkeye said, “but there’s not a helluva lot a chest surgeon can do at a house except shake hands and eat unless he gets real lucky.” Doggy gave him a speculative look and asked, “Boy, are you doing anything the rest of the morning?” “How about riding out to Hump Hill with me and taking a look at a Finch-Brown?” “Where is Hump Hill and what is a Finch-Brown?” “Boy, you may have a big league medical education, but you got a lot to learn. Come with me!” They rode in Doggy’s beat-up four-year-old Chevy station wagon and Doggy started to talk. “Now,” he said, “I’m going to tell you about Hump Hill. Hump Hill is ten miles north of Spruce Harbor. It’s just a mile or so beyond Hump Flats and it overlooks Hump Pond. It’s a sparsely settled area, populated entirely by one of our oldest Maine families, the Finch-Browns. The Finch-Browns have honored me the past thirtyfive years by making me their family physician.” “Why do you call it Hump Hill, Hump Pond and Hump Flats?” Hawk asked. “Because those christly Finch-Browns do nothing but hump, eat and drink, morning, noon and night, and there’s more humpin’ than there is eatin’ and they prefer it anyhow. You may think this is bad, but this community has fewer problems than any other in the state. It may be that the rest of the world should study the Finch-Browns very closely and pattern our civilization after theirs, although I doubt it.” “What problems do they have?” “As a general rule, only three: poverty, feeble mindedness and venereal disease.”

from MASH Goes To Maine by Richard Hooker

[stephen25000]

I find something terribly sad in part of this:
http://www.vox.com/2016/1/29/10862134/donald-trump-university

I wonder how many people are voting for him due to their perceptions of success in terms of the "American dream" based on the US version of The Apprentice?

And, to put that into perspective, it's worth reading the link to his innumerable court cases and the pending class actions against him.

Thanks for that link Carana.

To use an Americanism, Trump is a 'Flim-Flam' man.

[stephen25000]

Lapsed Republican strategist Liz Mair spoke truth to power on CNN last night, boiling down Donald Trump’s campaign strategy to “being a loudmouthed dick.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/aug/04/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-campaign-2016-election

[Carana]

Sorry Carana I didn't make it beyond the first sentence on Trump University, Trump Institute, Trump Organisation Trump This and Trump That; my mind then wandered to hump and The Finch-Browns :

"Doggy Moore and Hawkeye Pierce. On a morning in December, five months after Hawk’s arrival in Spruce Harbor, Dr. Moore said to Dr. Pierce: “Boy, do you make house calls?” “I don’t rule them out,” Hawkeye said, “but there’s not a helluva lot a chest surgeon can do at a house except shake hands and eat unless he gets real lucky.” Doggy gave him a speculative look and asked, “Boy, are you doing anything the rest of the morning?” “How about riding out to Hump Hill with me and taking a look at a Finch-Brown?” “Where is Hump Hill and what is a Finch-Brown?” “Boy, you may have a big league medical education, but you got a lot to learn. Come with me!” They rode in Doggy’s beat-up four-year-old Chevy station wagon and Doggy started to talk. “Now,” he said, “I’m going to tell you about Hump Hill. Hump Hill is ten miles north of Spruce Harbor. It’s just a mile or so beyond Hump Flats and it overlooks Hump Pond. It’s a sparsely settled area, populated entirely by one of our oldest Maine families, the Finch-Browns. The Finch-Browns have honored me the past thirtyfive years by making me their family physician.” “Why do you call it Hump Hill, Hump Pond and Hump Flats?” Hawk asked. “Because those christly Finch-Browns do nothing but hump, eat and drink, morning, noon and night, and there’s more humpin’ than there is eatin’ and they prefer it anyhow. You may think this is bad, but this community has fewer problems than any other in the state. It may be that the rest of the world should study the Finch-Browns very closely and pattern our civilization after theirs, although I doubt it.” “What problems do they have?” “As a general rule, only three: poverty, feeble mindedness and venereal disease.”

from MASH Goes To Maine by Richard Hooker

Ok... I guess that's made me chuckle. So thanks for that. ;)

But this is real life. 

[Carana]

Thanks for that link Carana.

To use an Americanism, Trump is a 'Flim-Flam' man.

Have a look through his court cases (I posted the link further up). I found the Trump U and the Baja sagas particularly disturbing.

I don't listen to convention speeches as they send me to sleep, but I was surprised to read about Bloomberg's outburst.


“Trump says he wants to run the nation like he’s running his business? God, help us,” he said, prompting the crowd to jump to their feet. “I’m a New Yorker, and I know a con when I see one.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/bloomberg-dnc-trump-con

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaooWYBvIUE



NB: That's what made me curious enough to check back to see if it was just the usual political back-stabbing.

At least one of his Trump U's court cases will only take place after the elections - and that was a decision  of the judge (to avoid the inevitable media circus) whom he'd very publicly insulted on TV.

[Carana]

Lapsed Republican strategist Liz Mair spoke truth to power on CNN last night, boiling down Donald Trump’s campaign strategy to “being a loudmouthed dick.”


https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/live/2016/aug/04/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-campaign-2016-election

That seems to be a fairly polite assessment...

[Carana]

Didn't you know that Boris is Theresa's secret weapon?

LOL I'd find this quite funny if it were a sitcom, but unfortunately it's not.

[Carana]

There is hope, hallelujah!

"Donald Trump felt the effects of arguably the most calamitous week endured by a US presidential candidate yesterday as polls in critical battleground states showed him on course for a crushing defeat.

The Republican trailed Hillary Clinton by nine points in Michigan; 15 in New Hampshire; 11 in Pennsylvania; and six in Florida.

A national poll by Fox News showed Mrs Clinton ahead by ten points — a margin that, were it to last until November, would be the biggest win since Ronald Reagan crushed Walter Mondale in 1984.

Another national poll released last night by McClatchy-Marist showed an even wider gap, putting Mrs Clinton 15 points ahead" - today's Times.

I'm not a particular fan of Hillary, but the bullying, gossamer-skinned, short-fingered vulgarian with pending class-action cases against him inspires me even less. Particularly with a red button within a million mile radius.

[Alice Purjorick]

Ok... I guess that's made me chuckle. So thanks for that. ;)

But this is real life. 

I know and I have seen it all before.
I don't know how old you are Carana but do you remember Barry Goldwater?
He was the Republican candidate who ran against Lyndon Johnson in 1964.
He did have career successes well at least one very important one !
But I guess most remember him for remarks like "Let's lob one into the boys room at The Kremlin"

"Goldwater was painted as a dangerous figure by the Johnson campaign, which countered Goldwater's slogan "In your heart, you know he's right" with the lines "In your guts, you know he's nuts", and "In your heart, you know he might" (that is, he might actually use nuclear weapons as opposed to using only deterrence). ". Familiar huh ?

Despite all that Charles Sweeney still holds the record he hoped he would always keep.

[Alice Purjorick]

Ok... I guess that's made me chuckle. So thanks for that. ;)

But this is real life. 

Everyone should read Hooker's two books:
MASH & MASH Goes To Maine.
The bit about The Holy Rollers in MASH Goes to Maine is priceless.

Sorry mods a bit off topic....

[Carana]

I know and I have seen it all before.
I don't know how old you are Carana but do you remember Barry Goldwater?
He was the Republican candidate who ran against Lyndon Johnson in 1964.
He did have career successes well at least one very important one !
But I guess most remember him for remarks like "Let's lob one into the boys room at The Kremlin"

"Goldwater was painted as a dangerous figure by the Johnson campaign, which countered Goldwater's slogan "In your heart, you know he's right" with the lines "In your guts, you know he's nuts", and "In your heart, you know he might" (that is, he might actually use nuclear weapons as opposed to using only deterrence). ". Familiar huh ?

Despite all that Charles Sweeney still holds the record he hoped he would always keep.

From a skim read of Goldwater on Wiki, yes, the opposition does appear to have done a bit of scare-mongering over some of his OTT comments / views, but Trump appears to be in a different league altogether. And a substantial proportion of prominent members of his own party appear to be tearing their hair out. The Dems don't need to spend a fortune in anti-Trump ads highlighting weaknesses / gaffes / bullying / "misstatements" / confusion, he does it all by himself.

A round up of a few recent articles.

Yes, American Spies Really Think Trump Is Putin’s Guy
The nominee’s Kremlin ties have become a scandal—and the GOP has nobody to blame but itself for this mess
By John R. Schindler • 08/05/16 4:06pm
http://observer.com/2016/08/yes-american-spies-really-think-trump-is-putins-guy/



I Ran the C.I.A. Now I’m Endorsing Hillary Clinton.

By MICHAEL J. MORELLAUG. 5, 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/opinion/campaign-stops/i-ran-the-cia-now-im-endorsing-hillary-clinton.html?_r=3&mtrref=t.co&assetType=opinion

This is actually about NATO:
Madeline Albright: Donald Trump Is Just 'Weird' | Morning Joe | MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFIG8l3TRc8

OK, this could be considered as scare-mongering, but I was thinking the same thing before ever having seen this (and have posted to that effect):
 Imagine Donald Trump With The Nuclear Codes | The Last Word | MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=371ppiYpk1U

YT links don't seem to want to embed. Soz.

[Alice Purjorick]

From a skim read of Goldwater on Wiki, yes, the opposition does appear to have done a bit of scare-mongering over some of his OTT comments / views, but Trump appears to be in a different league altogether. And a substantial proportion of prominent members of his own party appear to be tearing their hair out. The Dems don't need to spend a fortune in anti-Trump ads highlighting weaknesses / gaffes / bullying / "misstatements" / confusion, he does it all by himself.

A round up of a few recent articles.

Yes, American Spies Really Think Trump Is Putin’s Guy
The nominee’s Kremlin ties have become a scandal—and the GOP has nobody to blame but itself for this mess
By John R. Schindler • 08/05/16 4:06pm
http://observer.com/2016/08/yes-american-spies-really-think-trump-is-putins-guy/



I Ran the C.I.A. Now I’m Endorsing Hillary Clinton.

By MICHAEL J. MORELLAUG. 5, 2016
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/05/opinion/campaign-stops/i-ran-the-cia-now-im-endorsing-hillary-clinton.html?_r=3&mtrref=t.co&assetType=opinion

This is actually about NATO:
Madeline Albright: Donald Trump Is Just 'Weird' | Morning Joe | MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFIG8l3TRc8

OK, this could be considered as scare-mongering, but I was thinking the same thing before ever having seen this (and have posted to that effect):
 Imagine Donald Trump With The Nuclear Codes | The Last Word | MSNBC
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=371ppiYpk1U

YT links don't seem to want to embed. Soz.

I was around at the time and remember it well. Barry was painted as the very synthesis of Beelzebub and a band of demons all with their hands on the nuclear trigger. It sure gave the electorate the heebiejeebies, they voted for Johnson and another ten years of Vietnam and the Republican party ripped itself apart .......... familiar huh?

Look on the bright side, if Trump really is Putin's man he[Trump] will hardly be lobbing one in on the boys room at The Kremlin will he?. The rest can be sorted out with iron bombs as per norm and Chuck Sweeney lies at peace in his grave with his record intact.

[stephen25000]

Have a look through his court cases (I posted the link further up). I found the Trump U and the Baja sagas particularly disturbing.

I don't listen to convention speeches as they send me to sleep, but I was surprised to read about Bloomberg's outburst.


“Trump says he wants to run the nation like he’s running his business? God, help us,” he said, prompting the crowd to jump to their feet. “I’m a New Yorker, and I know a con when I see one.”

http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/07/bloomberg-dnc-trump-con

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaooWYBvIUE



NB: That's what made me curious enough to check back to see if it was just the usual political back-stabbing.

At least one of his Trump U's court cases will only take place after the elections - and that was a decision  of the judge (to avoid the inevitable media circus) whom he'd very publicly insulted on TV.

These cases do emphasise the nature of the man.

He deserves to get well and truly trumped in court.

[stephen25000]

So Trump is advocating violence by the gun lobby to get rid of Clinton , if she dares to tackle the issue of the right to bear arms.

However, he really didn't mean it, and it was just the left wing  press quoting out of context.

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It was interesting to watch the morons supporting him at his latest public event.   %&5%£ %&5%£

[John]

So Trump is advocating violence by the gun lobby to get rid of Clinton , if she dares to tackle the issue of the right to bear arms.

However, he really didn't mean it, and it was just the left wing  press quoting out of context.

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It was interesting to watch the morons supporting him at his latest public event.   %&5%£ %&5%£

Desperation could be setting in?