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Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #105 on: August 12, 2016, 10:58:39 PM »
Operation Grange described their identification of JTman as "almost certain" and "a revelation"


OG have never described it as "tentative".

Tentative = not certain.
Almost = not quite; very nearly.

« Last Edit: August 27, 2016, 01:43:38 PM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #106 on: August 12, 2016, 11:06:22 PM »
Tentative = not certain.
Almost = not quite; very nearly.
And how do you re-define "uncannily striking" Brietta?
And "revelation"?

Source: http://youtu.be/3EyqHtsLeGQ 
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Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #107 on: August 13, 2016, 12:14:42 AM »
There are exceptions Merc like cases where a burglar carries a visible TV in his arms through the streets, but they are very low IQ and unresourceful perps.

Amaral's Smithman theory and OG's Smithman theory both assume a perp that was so stupid that he chose an absurd transport method of carrying, unconcealed and plainly visible to all, through populated streets.

If smithman was involved i doubt he thought himself stupid or cared...it was not uncommon to carry a child home and its not as if the streets were streaming with tourists/witnesses

The only link to this case is the timing, girls pyjama colours and hair colour/age  dont count for much as they are very common....but why is it? Why assume a man seen with a child when the alarm was raised was the man who alledgedly stole MM
it could have been anytime between (if we believe all statements) 9.10 and then
I dont blame smithman at all either for never coming forward if he was innocent...why launch yourself into the den of lions of the (particularly nasty) press and maybe also police




Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #108 on: August 13, 2016, 01:15:33 AM »
(snip) it could have been anytime between (if we believe all statements) 9.10 and then... (snip)
"between 03 May 21.10  and ?" is free of illogical assumption Merc



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Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #109 on: August 13, 2016, 01:24:15 AM »
At what time between 9.10 and 10? is IMO a classic example of asking a drastically wrong question Merc.
Why is it a wrong question?

Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #110 on: August 13, 2016, 01:30:36 AM »
Have to go catch up tomorrow pegs

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #111 on: August 13, 2016, 01:32:25 AM »
Why is it a wrong question?
Because it's an incorrectly restricted window Merc IMO.

Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #112 on: August 14, 2016, 12:41:30 AM »
Because it's an incorrectly restricted window Merc IMO.
whats the correct one?

Offline pegasus

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #113 on: August 14, 2016, 01:20:28 AM »
whats the correct one?
It''s "Between 03 May 21:10 and ?" Merc
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Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #114 on: August 14, 2016, 01:35:30 AM »
It''s "Between 03 May 21:10 and ?" Merc

Oh i understand now, your theory that madeleine was still possibly in the apartment post alarm being  raised
Ok thanks
which quickly leads to who removed her?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #115 on: August 15, 2016, 06:38:46 AM »
It's quite simple Robbity,"abduction" means illegally taking a live person, "non-abduction" covers everything else.
So abduction in your opinion is always illegal?  I wonder if that is strictly true by definition. 
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Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #116 on: August 15, 2016, 08:42:44 AM »
I agree with Mr Amaral, the two Crimewatch efits were not made not by members of the Smith group IMO.

Mr Amaral is wrong, and so (rarely) are you (on this occasion) pegasus.

It has been confirmed in an FOI answer to a question by Tony Bennett that the efits were produced by the Irish family.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #117 on: August 15, 2016, 09:41:00 AM »
Mr Amaral is wrong, and so (rarely) are you (on this occasion, pegasus.

It has been confirmed in an FOI answer to a question by Tony Bennett that the efits were produced by the Irish family.
do we only have his word for that?
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Offline mercury

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #118 on: August 15, 2016, 09:58:51 PM »
FOI request:  Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2014090001604 19 September 2014  to Metropolitan Police - answered 18 October 2014:
[..]
At Question 4 you asked:
Did members of the Irish family create these e-fits, or were the 'two witnesses' mentioned by Matthew Amroliwala who drew up the e-fits actually other witnesses? If so, please state who they were.
The MPS response is:  The programme was referring to members of the Irish family who created the e-fits.
At Question 5 you asked:
Are the e-fits of the same man, or not?
The MPS reponse is: Yes, they are the same man.

Offline Brietta

Re: Gonçalo Amaral claimed that so-called Smithman e-fits were simply a ruse!
« Reply #119 on: August 16, 2016, 01:21:43 AM »
FOI request:  Freedom of Information Request Reference No: 2014090001604 19 September 2014  to Metropolitan Police - answered 18 October 2014:
[..]
At Question 4 you asked:
Did members of the Irish family create these e-fits, or were the 'two witnesses' mentioned by Matthew Amroliwala who drew up the e-fits actually other witnesses? If so, please state who they were.
The MPS response is:  The programme was referring to members of the Irish family who created the e-fits.
At Question 5 you asked:
Are the e-fits of the same man, or not?
The MPS reponse is: Yes, they are the same man.

I don't think the question is concise to begin with, Mercury.  It didn't specify "Smith".  Therefore in a resort hugely popular with the Irish the "members of the Irish family" response may not necessarily refer to the family the questioner thought he was asking about.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....