Author Topic: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?  (Read 10383 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline jassi

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #45 on: August 16, 2016, 01:34:08 PM »
Suspected of doing what?

Ivolvement in the disappearance of Madeleine
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

ferryman

  • Guest
Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #46 on: August 16, 2016, 03:46:07 PM »
Are you discounting Smithman as a suspect?


No.

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #47 on: August 17, 2016, 02:43:43 AM »
(snip) ... On the other hand, plenty (with nothing suspicious to hide) might have reacted the same way.
Agreed.
The only supposedly suspicious thing he did was not answering a question posed to him in a foreign language by a passing stranger .
Smithman has nothing at all to do with the case IMO.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #48 on: August 17, 2016, 05:49:57 AM »
Agreed.
The only supposedly suspicious thing he did was not answering a question posed to him in a foreign language by a passing stranger .
Smithman has nothing at all to do with the case IMO.
If we were to ever get a name of the Smithman character I think then we could decide whether he has anything to do with the case, otherwise your opinion seems a little premature.
Moderation
John has instructed all moderators to take a very strong line with posters who constantly breach the rules of this forum.  This sniping, goading, name calling and other various forms of disruption will cease.

Offline mercury

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #49 on: August 17, 2016, 10:42:05 PM »
Well thats never going to happen, smithman wants go hide his identity for some reason, good or bad

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #50 on: August 22, 2016, 11:34:22 PM »
Make a list of all the hundreds of cases where an abductor, or a concealer, has openly and visibly carried in arms for a quarter of a mile through the streets, and all those cases have one very significant thing in common ...
« Last Edit: August 22, 2016, 11:37:18 PM by pegasus »

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #51 on: August 22, 2016, 11:38:33 PM »
... they don't exist.

Offline mercury

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #52 on: August 22, 2016, 11:42:17 PM »
... they don't exist.
Only in solved cases maybe
What about that baby that was taken/missing recently
Grime and his dogs were involved and they alerted
I cant remember the name but it was recent ie with last year or two
And there was a witness that saw a baby carried in the street with no clothes on
Eta Lisa Irwin
« Last Edit: August 22, 2016, 11:45:21 PM by mercury »

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #53 on: August 23, 2016, 02:15:51 AM »
IMO no-one has posted a solved case with open visible carrying through the streets for 400m or more yet
« Last Edit: August 23, 2016, 02:21:12 AM by pegasus »

Offline misty

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #54 on: August 23, 2016, 02:19:57 AM »
IMO no-one has posted a case with open visible carrying through the streets for 400m or more.

I'm slightly peeved you've dismissed the Newcastle case so readily.

Offline pegasus

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #55 on: August 23, 2016, 02:47:24 AM »
I'm slightly peeved you've dismissed the Newcastle case so readily.
If you had placed the PDL irish witnesses 400m away along the escape route in the case you cited, they would not have seen open carrying - they would have seen someone driving a car
« Last Edit: August 23, 2016, 02:53:21 AM by pegasus »

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #56 on: August 23, 2016, 03:46:27 AM »
If you had placed the PDL irish witnesses 400m away along the escape route in the case you cited, they would not have seen open carrying - they would have seen someone driving a car
How did you work that out?
Moderation
John has instructed all moderators to take a very strong line with posters who constantly breach the rules of this forum.  This sniping, goading, name calling and other various forms of disruption will cease.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #57 on: August 23, 2016, 11:12:05 AM »
If you had placed the PDL irish witnesses 400m away along the escape route in the case you cited, they would not have seen open carrying - they would have seen someone driving a car

Doesn't mean it was open carrying all the way. The Smiths only saw a man and matching child 400 metres from the crime scene. You don't know where the child was. You can presume she was taken from 5A at that time but it doesn't make it so if you are smart to cover one's tracks. As Smithman wasn't seen carrying a child close to the crime scene I go with smart not dumb.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #58 on: August 23, 2016, 01:34:02 PM »
If you had placed the PDL irish witnesses 400m away along the escape route in the case you cited, they would not have seen open carrying - they would have seen someone driving a car


I think it possible that the Smith sighting raised many more questions than it answered.  Which may be why the Amaral investigation appeared to give it a zero rating until Mr Smith's false identification generated some interest.

We have no idea where Smithman came from.  Nor do we have any real indication of the route taken once he had passed Aoife


Quote
She does not remember how they were divided [who was where].
— The deponent remembers that upon reaching the top of the stairs, she looked to her left and saw a man (1) with a female child (2) in his arms, walking along the pavement of Rua 25 de Abril. He was walking in her direction at a distance of, give or take, two metres.
— The deponent crossed to the other side of Rua 25 de Abril and began walking up Rua da Escola Primária in the direction of the Estrela da Luz apartment complex.
— She did not see if the referenced individual with the child descended Rua das Escadinhas or if he continued along Rua 25 de Abril.  Aoife Smith
End quote

Quote
He was heading toward his apartment (Estrela da Luz complex) which is located a little above the street Travessa da Escola Primária (Primary school crossing). As he reached this artery, he saw an individual carrying a child, who walked normally and fitted in perfectly in that area  ...
This individual was walking the downward path, in the opposite direction to him and his companions. He is not aware where this person was headed. He only saw him as they passed each other.
>>>>
He states that the individual carried the child in his arms, with her head laying on the individual's left shoulder, that being to the right of the deponent.
>>>>
— States also that when he passed this individual he was coming down the middle of the road, in the street, also that at that time traffic is minimal or non-existent.   Martin Smith
End quote
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_SMITH.htm
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Was Smithman's interaction with the Smith family suspicious?
« Reply #59 on: August 23, 2016, 08:16:12 PM »
The man (seen by smiths) took no measures to prevent his own height, build, skin colour, hair length, hair colour, clothing and shoes being seen. And he took no measures to prevent the child's height, skin colour, hair length, hair colour, clothes, and absence of footwear being seen. So if he was an abductor (or a body-mover) he was an incredibly stupid one who was unlikely to have the intelligence to even think about the far smaller risk of recognition by accent.

IMO all sightings where a visible child was being carried can be automatically ruled out as irrelevant.

Well, all that is true but, many children are abducted in broad daylight, parks and shopping malls, abductors just walk them away...
'Never underestimate the power of stupid people'... George Carlin