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Offline G-Unit

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #60 on: September 03, 2016, 08:18:59 PM »

I'm not terribly sure that can be accomplished without the involvement of law enforcement; in this instance of two countries.

Any suggestion how Madeleine's Fund could have circumvented that requirement ... or don't you think it matters?

They certainly circumvented the initial investigation.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #61 on: September 03, 2016, 08:38:00 PM »
They certainly circumvented the initial investigation.

Please cite your example.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #62 on: September 03, 2016, 08:58:12 PM »

I'm not terribly sure that can be accomplished without the involvement of law enforcement; in this instance of two countries.

Any suggestion how Madeleine's Fund could have circumvented that requirement ... or don't you think it matters?

That's not my call. I did not put it in the company objectives for all to see. Are you suggesting those who did were at fault?
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Offline faithlilly

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #63 on: September 03, 2016, 10:06:14 PM »
How much money in the form of personal donations eg: pocket money and pensions have the McCanns received between years 2 and 10 do you reckon?  Say, as a % of the overall receipts.

And again why didn't the McCanns make it absolutely clear at any time in the last ten years that the donations  the public were making would, in part, be used to fund the parents own private litigation?
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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #64 on: September 03, 2016, 10:30:47 PM »
And again why didn't the McCanns make it absolutely clear at any time in the last ten years that the donations  the public were making would, in part, be used to fund the parents own private litigation?
You didn't answer my question.

Alfie

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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #65 on: September 03, 2016, 10:48:03 PM »
From the libellously named McCann Fund Fraud website I found this:

Brian Kennedy also gave an interview at the Rothley War Memorial on May 17, 2007. This time he was eager to tell us how to donate money to the “Fund” via two banks – the Nat West and the Royal Bank of Scotland. He also told us what the money would be used for:

"Mainly for legal expenditure”

A video follows verifying he said this.  Indeed, this early explanation of what the fund would be used for has itself been used as a stick with which to beat the McCanns, but what cannot be said is that all the poor little children and the frail old pensioners had no idea that the pocket and pension money they were shoving in Brian Kennedy's pockets would be used for legal expenditure or to help the McCann family generally as is being made out here.  They knew as early as May 17 2007, and the admission did not see a sudden halt to further donations did it?

Alfie

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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #66 on: September 03, 2016, 10:56:18 PM »
Furthermore, when you google Madeleine Fund, the libellously named "McCann Fund Fraud" is the fifth entry.  It has a section called "disgruntled donors".  Now imagine the hundreds, if not thousands of disgruntled donors there must be, all the little children (now a bit older) and impoverished OAPs who feel cheated out of their pocket money and pensions by the Fund because of the money being spent on legal fees, you'd think the website would be groaning under the weight of all that disgruntlement wouldn't you?  Well actually there is 1 disgruntled donor from Germany who is seething about her £5 paypal donation.  Apparently she knows that her £5 wasn't used to pay for the investigation somehow. 

Utterly pathetic.

Alfie

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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #67 on: September 03, 2016, 11:00:37 PM »
Here is Disgruntled from Germany's message.  Note the offer of help to "get them" at the end ("I'll happily hold a pitchfork or a blazing torch")

Hi from Germany!

I paid 5 GBP by PayPal. At this point of time I really thought, they were actually interested in searching for Madeleine and not just to collect money and hoard it for a good life to fourth. It is their moral obligation to all donors, to open the expenditure of funds.

This is the PayPal proof of payment. It is not much but it came from the heart and unfortunately landed directly in their wallets.

So, if you need my help to get them, tell me what I can do.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #68 on: September 03, 2016, 11:10:13 PM »
From the libellously named McCann Fund Fraud website I found this:

Brian Kennedy also gave an interview at the Rothley War Memorial on May 17, 2007. This time he was eager to tell us how to donate money to the “Fund” via two banks – the Nat West and the Royal Bank of Scotland. He also told us what the money would be used for:

"Mainly for legal expenditure”

A video follows verifying he said this.  Indeed, this early explanation of what the fund would be used for has itself been used as a stick with which to beat the McCanns, but what cannot be said is that all the poor little children and the frail old pensioners had no idea that the pocket and pension money they were shoving in Brian Kennedy's pockets would be used for legal expenditure or to help the McCann family generally as is being made out here.  They knew as early as May 17 2007, and the admission did not see a sudden halt to further donations did it?
Please clarify.  Did or did not Brian Kennedy say by 17 May 2007 that the fund would be used mainly for legal expenditure?

You seem to be saying that he did.
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Alfie

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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #69 on: September 03, 2016, 11:15:40 PM »
And another thing - money started pouring in in the first few days of Madeleine's disappearance.  Do you think that all those who gave money in those first weeks gave it expecting it be be needed for a long and expensive private investigation?  Most who gave would have done so hoping and praying that the PT police would soon find her, but privately expecting the worst news to come out of Portugal any day.  I know I did.  So don't let's have any more of this claptrap about the morality of how the money was spent.  Most people who gave at the beginning (when most of the public donations were made), gave out of sympathy to the McCanns themselves and a desire to help them and their family, not for any specific purpose such as paying out for investigators.  In most high profile cases, especially those involving children the public like to give cash as a way of showing their support (see April Jones also - do you think all those donors gave with the expectation that the Jones family would use it to fund a private investigation when the police failed to find her?  Rubbish!)

Alfie

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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #70 on: September 03, 2016, 11:17:24 PM »
Please clarify.  Did or did not Brian Kennedy say by 17 May 2007 that the fund would be used mainly for legal expenditure?

You seem to be saying that he did.
I couldn't have made my post any clearer but see if this helps:
YES HE DID SAY THE FUND WOULD BE USED MAINLY FOR LEGAL EXPENDITURE.

Now I expect the thread to take a hasty turn in another direction... @)(++(*

Offline Angelo222

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #71 on: September 03, 2016, 11:30:00 PM »
I couldn't have made my post any clearer but see if this helps:
YES HE DID SAY THE FUND WOULD BE USED MAINLY FOR LEGAL EXPENDITURE.

Now I expect the thread to take a hasty turn in another direction... @)(++(*

Do you not think a website called "Find Madeleine" and the fund it promotes should have been used exclusively to fund the search for Maddie rather than fund litigation which has so far proved to be a complete and utter waste of time and money and has achieved absolutely zilch as far as the original objective of the fund was concerned?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #72 on: September 03, 2016, 11:37:45 PM »
I couldn't have made my post any clearer but see if this helps:
YES HE DID SAY THE FUND WOULD BE USED MAINLY FOR LEGAL EXPENDITURE.

Now I expect the thread to take a hasty turn in another direction... @)(++(*
Thank you.

Is there any reason why Mr Brian Kennedy thought, by 17 May 2007, that the fund would not be for living expenditure (travel, accommodation, expenses back home whilst off work), or search expenditure (for the missing Madeleine McCann)?  But rather thought, a fortnight after Madeleine went missing, that legal expenditure was top of the pile?
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #73 on: September 03, 2016, 11:42:38 PM »
I think it should be pointed out that the Find Madeleine limited Company is called "No Stone Unturned Limited" and not "Throw a Pile of Stones Limited"!
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Offline Brietta

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #74 on: September 03, 2016, 11:44:18 PM »
Do you not think a website called "Find Madeleine" and the fund it promotes should have been used exclusively to fund the search for Maddie rather than fund litigation which has so far proved to be a complete and utter waste of time and money and has achieved absolutely zilch as far as the original objective of the fund was concerned?

Brian Kennedy also gave an interview at the Rothley War Memorial on May 17, 2007. This time he was eager to tell us how to donate money to the “Fund” via two banks – the Nat West and the Royal Bank of Scotland. He also told us what the money would be used for:

“Mainly for legal expenditure”

As this was the first raison d’etre for the Madeleine Fund, and confirmed nationally by one of its directors, we can conclude that the Madeleine Fund was set up to provide legal funds for the McCanns.

At no time at all did Brian Kennedy state that the money was to be used to finance the search for Madeleine.
http://mccannfundfraud.info/2011/05/brian-kennedy-admits-madeleine-fund-was-for-legal-expenditure/#comments


I doubt very much if it was envisaged that there would be a diversion when the lead detective wrote a book asserting that Madeleine was dead taking care to implicate her parents in that death.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....