Author Topic: Where has the £266,000 gone?  (Read 59736 times)

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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #135 on: September 04, 2016, 04:26:38 PM »
Defense?
That seems one obvious possibility, but without clarification from Mr Kennedy, it would be speculative to think it was the reason.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #136 on: September 04, 2016, 04:35:29 PM »
That seems one obvious possibility, but without clarification from Mr Kennedy, it would be speculative to think it was the reason.

I was thinking of the phrase 'fighting fund' as used by the barrister from IFLG. Fighting usually involves attack and defense. Can you think of anyone they were planning on attacking by 11th May?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #137 on: September 04, 2016, 04:57:26 PM »
I was thinking of the phrase 'fighting fund' as used by the barrister from IFLG. Fighting usually involves attack and defense. Can you think of anyone they were planning on attacking by 11th May?
When did the information become public about the patio door being unlocked?  Presumably that would have raised a concern about possible negligence charges (which did not happen, to be clear) and the possibility of the press rounding on them.

The IFLG barrister would have an opinion on the former.  Presumably another set of legal eagles would be required for the latter.
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Alfie

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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #138 on: September 04, 2016, 04:59:23 PM »
I was thinking of the phrase 'fighting fund' as used by the barrister from IFLG. Fighting usually involves attack and defense. Can you think of anyone they were planning on attacking by 11th May?
It's a turn of phrase - are you unfamiliar with it?

fighting fund

nounBRITISH

money raised to finance a campaign, especially one supporting a political or social cause.

Offline Benice

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #139 on: September 04, 2016, 05:21:35 PM »
It's a turn of phrase - are you unfamiliar with it?

fighting fund

nounBRITISH

money raised to finance a campaign, especially one supporting a political or social cause.

Just another example IMO of the petty nitpicking which has become the norm for some in this case.

It wouldn't matter what the fund was called - it would be wrong in some folks eyes.



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Offline G-Unit

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #140 on: September 04, 2016, 07:41:23 PM »
It's a turn of phrase - are you unfamiliar with it?

fighting fund

nounBRITISH

money raised to finance a campaign, especially one supporting a political or social cause.

Used is sentences such as;

the action group launched a fighting fund to pay legal costs if defeated

Campaigners against an incinerator in East Hull have started a fighting fund to raise money for a barrister to fight their corner at a public inquiry.

synonyms;

war chest

Fighting cancer;
http://www.melissasfightingfund.co.uk/Welcome.html

It always seems to involve fighting for or against something. Fighting for the return of Madeleine? Would that involve using it ''mainly for legal expenditure'' [Brian Kennedy 17th May 2007]?


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Offline faithlilly

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #141 on: September 05, 2016, 01:39:49 AM »
Because generous members of the public were already donating money and the McCanns wanted to set up a framework to demonstrate that it was being used honestly.

That's why.

If it was being used properly the McCanns would have made it clear sooner that they were using the fund to pursue libel litigations.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 01:09:27 PM by John »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline mercury

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #142 on: September 05, 2016, 02:41:33 AM »
If it was being used properly the McCanns would have made it clear sooner that they were using the fund to pursue libel litigations.

They put it intheir accounts 2009/10 ,
See
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1682.0

Not thereafter

and obviously all interested public read companies house accounts

But they also went on to solicit more donations in 2010

From 00 45
https://youtu.be/34NLVmrQsoA

Full transcript
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id343.html

So they knew what expenses they would have
Thegeneral public wouldnt have known donations were for these

As for the initial kennedy comment, they all knew what it might be for, the public didnt and itwasnt explained

No matter, people donate and thats that
Were they hoodwinked, ? Not at the start but later imo probably, dunno really
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Alfie

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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #143 on: September 05, 2016, 08:14:24 AM »
If it was being used properly the McCanns would have made it clear sooner that they were using the fund to pursue libel litigations.
How many people who support the McCanns and who have given to their fund over the years don't also support their action against Amaral do you think?
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 01:10:38 PM by John »

Offline faithlilly

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #144 on: September 05, 2016, 12:13:29 PM »
Until the last few weeks unless you were following the case closely you would have had no idea that the fund had been used to fund the libel litigation. How can you you complain if you do not know there is anything to complain about ? As to the public's feeling when the fund money is spent inappropriately, do you remember the amount of public anger displayed when the McCanns used the fund to pay their mortgage. I do.
« Last Edit: September 06, 2016, 01:35:47 PM by John »
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfie

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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #145 on: September 05, 2016, 12:15:46 PM »
Until the last few weeks unless you were following the case closely you would have had no idea that the fund had been used to fund the libel litigation. How can you you complain if you do not know there is anything to complain about ? As to the public's feeling when the fund money is spent inappropriately, do you remember the amount of public anger displayed when the McCanns used the fund to pay their mortgage. I do.
Good point.  When were the mortgage payments revealed?  Did that put an end to all future donations to the fund from that date onwards...? 

Alfie

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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #146 on: September 05, 2016, 12:19:49 PM »
Until the last few weeks unless you were following the case closely you would have had no idea that the fund had been used to fund the libel litigation. How can you you complain if you do not know there is anything to complain about ? As to the public's feeling when the fund money is spent inappropriately, do you remember the amount of public anger displayed when the McCanns used the fund to pay their mortgage. I do.
You "sceptics" have been bleating on about the misuse of the Fund for the best part of 10 years (even though 99% of you never donated a penny).  What makes you guys so special that you know exactly what's what, whilst assuming that all those who DID contribute to the fund without complaint are stupid, disinterested or blind sheeple.  Is that what you think?  You have no more privileged information about the Fund and what it's been spent on than everyone else, though you may like to think you're Miss Marple.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #147 on: September 05, 2016, 12:29:04 PM »
Good point.  When were the mortgage payments revealed?  Did that put an end to all future donations to the fund from that date onwards...?

I'm afraid by that time their suspect status had achieved that. I especially remember John McCann, one of the directors at the time, bemoaning the situation.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfie

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Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #148 on: September 05, 2016, 12:31:16 PM »
I'm afraid by that time their suspect status had achieved that. I especially remember John McCann, one of the directors at the time, bemoaning the situation.
Are you claiming they never got another public donation from the time they were made arguidos?  If so then then problem solved.  No public donations were spent on private litigation.  Happy now?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Where has the £266,000 gone?
« Reply #149 on: September 05, 2016, 12:33:04 PM »
You "sceptics" have been bleating on about the misuse of the Fund for the best part of 10 years (even though 99% of you never donated a penny).  What makes you guys so special that you know exactly what's what, whilst assuming that all those who DID contribute to the fund without complaint are stupid, disinterested or blind sheeple.  Is that what you think?  You have no more privileged information about the Fund and what it's been spent on than everyone else, though you may like to think you're Miss Marple.

I think the members of the general public who did contribute to the fund were stupid, disinterested or blind steeple. I think they did it in good faith to help a suffering family. That their kindness was abused is no reflection on them.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?