How can the search for Madeleine McCann go forward?

[John]

There seems to be a lot of negatively about these days so let's think positive!

It is now officially autumn in these northern climes and with the latest official investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann about to end everybody who has ever followed this case must surely be asking, what next?

Is there a way forward?  Can you suggest anything which could further a renewed investigation?

All suggestions will be listed below.

1. A renewed effort to identify Smithman.



Missing youngster Madeleine McCann in happier times.

[Miss Taken Identity]

There seems to be a lot of negatively about these days so let's think positive!

It is now officially autumn in these northern climes and with the latest official investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann about to end everybody who has ever followed this case must surely be asking, what next?

Is there a way forward?  Can you suggest anything which could further a renewed investigation?



Missing youngster Madeleine McCann in happier times.

It would seem all the stones have been turned. Maddies fate ( whatever that was/is) would have propably involved one or more people ,perhaps to make then accessories to a crime,to keep them quiet. Stunning thing is  no reward was taken up at the beginning. 

I could suggest something, but I am not going to.

[Carana]

There seems to be a lot of negatively about these days so let's think positive!

It is now officially autumn in these northern climes and with the latest official investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann about to end everybody who has ever followed this case must surely be asking, what next?

Is there a way forward?  Can you suggest anything which could further a renewed investigation?



Missing youngster Madeleine McCann in happier times.

There is still that remaining line of enquiry, whatever that is. Smellyman?

Although the McCanns have apparently been kept updated, I doubt that they would be privy to the entire UK side of the investigation, which might make it somewhat difficult to know what they could still actually do.

Would there be a part-time desk officer still available, in case something new and unexpected turned up?

[John]

There is still that remaining line of enquiry, whatever that is. Smellyman?

Although the McCanns have apparently been kept updated, I doubt that they would be privy to the entire UK side of the investigation, which might make it somewhat difficult to know what they could still actually do.

Would there be a part-time desk officer still available, in case something new and unexpected turned up?

I must say I was surprised that SY announced they were wrapping it up after previously stasting that they had lodged several ILOR's with the Portuguese authorities.

Re your last point, if and when the enquiry is suspended any new information will still be reviewed but not necessarily acted upon unless it was of significant quality to warrant it.

[John]

To answer my own question from the opening post, I still believe the identification of Smithman is crucial to unwinding this mystery so I suggest a concerted effort at identifying him.

[Carana]

I must say I was surprised that SY announced they were wrapping it up after previously stasting that they had lodged several ILOR's with the Portuguese authorities.

Re your last point, if and when the enquiry is suspended any new information will still be reviewed but not necessarily acted upon unless it was of significant quality to warrant it.

The pending ILORs was some time ago, wasn't it, John? Unless there were objections, they presumably moved forward.

[John]

The pending ILORs was some time ago, wasn't it, John? Unless there were objections, they presumably moved forward.

If I recall from that period there was some resistance by the Portuguese to the ILORs ie they were unwilling to allow anyone else to be interviewed or homes searched without credible evidence being provided.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-seach-portuguese-judge-3507111

[Alice Purjorick]

If I recall from that period there was some resistance by the Portuguese to the ILORs ie they were unwilling to allow anyone else to be interviewed or homes searched without credible evidence being provided.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/madeleine-mccann-seach-portuguese-judge-3507111

If you read the CPS guidelines ILORs cannot be raised for fishing expeditions and they [the CPS] are picky about what ILORs are sent forward for processing. That leaves plenty of room for misunderstandings like "send three and fourpence we are going to a dance" and blaming those who may not necessarily be at fault.

[Carana]

To answer my own question from the opening post, I still believe the identification of Smithman is crucial to unwinding this mystery so I suggest a concerted effort at identifying him.

I'm wondering if the alleged outstanding lead is Smithman or Smellyman. Possibly Smithman strictly in terms of OG, but there may be a different offshoot under a different heading to try to identify the other one (assuming that they are not one and the same, for the sake of the other childen, whether or not there is any connection to M's disappearance).

[Carana]

If you read the CPS guidelines ILORs cannot be raised for fishing expeditions and they [the CPS] are picky about what ILORs are sent forward for processing. That leaves plenty of room for misunderstandings like "send three and fourpence we are going to a dance" and blaming those who may not necessarily be at fault.

Is there any serious indication that there ever was a fishing expedition? Or was the origin of that in the tabloids?

Is simply wanting to interview someone to clarify details a fishing expedition? How else could this have been achieved without an ILOR in the absence of a JIT?

[Alice Purjorick]

Is there any serious indication that there ever was a fishing expedition? Or was the origin of that in the tabloids?

Is simply wanting to interview someone to clarify details a fishing expedition? How else could this have been achieved without an ILOR in the absence of a JIT?

You are missing the point of what I posted. By accident or design I can't say.

[G-Unit]

If the SY investigation stops, it will be shelved rather than closed I would think. In either case, the information it has added to the process will not be released.

Any further investigation is in danger of repeating work done by SY. For that reason alone I think instigating an active investigation would be a waste of money.

As I see it the only choice going forward is along the lines of occasional reminders via the website and media.

[mercury]

Nearly 10 years and multi million pounds later nd zilch resulting from the active involvement of three police forces, interpol, several detective agencies , several independent investigators. worldwide mmedia and online campaigns etcetc
So better to take a step back and not waste any more time energy and money apart from the usual low means
Often cases get solved by fluke events,or people coming forward (rare) or chance discovery of new evidence


There is no action that can be taken imo that hasnt already been

Time to call it a dayand use resources more wisely in future, such as dont spend vast amounts of money on vindictive litigation which is a GAMBLE

[Brietta]

Nearly 10 years and multi million pounds later nd zilch resulting from the active involvement of three police forces, interpol, several detective agencies , several independent investigators. worldwide mmedia and online campaigns etcetc
So better to take a step back and not waste any more time energy and money apart from the usual low means
Often cases get solved by fluke events,or people coming forward (rare) or chance discovery of new evidence


There is no action that can be taken imo that hasnt already been

Time to call it a dayand use resources more wisely in future, such as dont spend vast amounts of money on vindictive litigation which is a GAMBLE

Let me get my head round this.

You are suggesting a halt is called on a missing child investigation at a time when a senior police officer has told us that there are avenues of investigation still being actively followed and that there is a possibility that Madeleine may still be alive?

[stephen25000]

Let me get my head round this.

You are suggesting a halt is called on a missing child investigation at a time when a senior police officer has told us that there are avenues of investigation still being actively followed and that there is a possibility that Madeleine may still be alive?

1 avenue I believe.