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Alfie

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Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #405 on: September 19, 2016, 11:16:10 PM »
Not exactly about Kate's book but is the campaign shop still active?
Why?  Did you need a new wristband?

Offline faithlilly

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #406 on: September 19, 2016, 11:19:02 PM »
Why?  Did you need a new wristband?

Could you only respond to my posts if your are going to provide an answer? Thanks ever so.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfie

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Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #407 on: September 19, 2016, 11:23:10 PM »
Could you only respond to my posts if your are going to provide an answer? Thanks ever so.
Something tells me you already knew the answer before you asked the question.  There's a simple way to find out if the shop is currently active and that is to go and click on the link.  As far as I know, no one here visits the shop on a daily basis or is responsible for maintaining it.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #408 on: September 19, 2016, 11:32:46 PM »
Something tells me you already knew the answer before you asked the question.  There's a simple way to find out if the shop is currently active and that is to go and click on the link.  As far as I know, no one here visits the shop on a daily basis or is responsible for maintaining it.

I'm browsing on an iPad and the links don't always work. That's why I asked.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfie

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Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #409 on: September 19, 2016, 11:36:35 PM »
I'm browsing on an iPad and the links don't always work. That's why I asked.
Genuine question - why were you trying to access the shop?  You obviously have no intention of ever buying anything so what's the fascination?  As a McCann supporter I've probably looked at that page once or twice in the last 5 years.

Alfie

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Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #410 on: September 19, 2016, 11:39:24 PM »
Amaral repeating idle gossip he picked up from a journo - on national media.  What right does he have to do this, if Kate has no right whatsover to suggest that people (in the abstract) were afraid of speaking out against him?

Interviewer:You believe that they conserved it in a freezer all that time? Where?
 
Amaral: There is a journalist who says that he saw the McCanns enter a block of apartments close to the beach, in the month of June… But we do not know in which flat they were. It is a building for tourists and they passed many people

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #411 on: September 19, 2016, 11:40:32 PM »
Here is part of an interview with Amaral which is full of his crappy speculations



Q - What is your opinion?

A - To me, Gerry hid Madeleine's body on the beach. And after a few days he moved her with his car. We work following this lead. Trying to find out the date of the switch, some details, but we were on the way. The Irish [witness] was about to arrive in Portugal, but everything was delayed too much, he even received external pressures. In the end, he didn't testify for the Police.

Q – They [McCanns] have appeared in all the media to announce the disappearance of their daughter and if it ends up that they have done it, what are they, psychopaths?

A – No, they are human. If the McCanns admit that their daughter is dead, they can no longer collect money from the Maddie fund, and that's a lot of money, over one million pounds. That's why they say that the girl was abducted.

Q - What if they do not want to lose hope? It all seems very morbid.

A - It is. If they admit that she is dead they will lose their style of life. They are human, not psychopaths.

Q - You said that the girl was frozen.

A - For there to be vestiges in the boot of the car rented 23 days later, they must have preserved the corpse in some way. I believe that when they put it in the boot, with the heat of those days in the Algarve, a similar situation happened with that of shopping bags, which melt, and then the water is transferred to the car.

http://www.mccannfiles.com/id165.html
If the original interview is still up there, perhaps I will find enough time to go through the interview in Portuguese, providing I have the stomach for it.

For the moment here is the supposed English translation (which looks to me to be struggling a la 'nuclear mission' - what?)

"Was anything done about the church where the McCanns spent so much time and to which they had the key? (identified reader)

There were never any motives to question the Catholic church. There is no indice that points towards the child being there, at least up to the moment when she was transported in the car. Even because there are no freezers there, or cold spots that would allow for the body to be kept at that location."

I cannot find a mention of a coffin or a cremation in the link.  Did we have a link to such a source the last time we discussed the body-in-a-coffin idea?  I really cannot remember.
 
What's up, old man?

Alfie

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Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #412 on: September 19, 2016, 11:43:44 PM »
No "ifs" or "buts" or "maybes" in Amaral's response here - this is presented not as theory but as fact:

Q:Do you know what happened to Madeleine?

Amaral: Madeleine died in the apartment on the night of the disappearance. It is complicated to be sure how she died because there are many indications. What is certain is that the girl woke up, the girl has disappeared and that behind the sofa there was cadaver odour and human blood.

What right does Amaral have to say these things, if Kate has no right whatsoever to voice her feelings about the fact that no one in Portugal seemed remotely interested in vigorously challenging Amaral's accusations?

Alfie

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Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #413 on: September 19, 2016, 11:47:42 PM »
In which Amaral outright accuses all 9 of the Tapas group of a cover-up:

Q: Do you believe that we will know what happened to Maddie one day? Will we get to know the truth?

Amaral: Yes. There were 9 people in this Holiday Group. Maybe they do not know that the girl is dead, but they could have received instructions about what to say, such as "you went to the room and you saw the girl", however they know that this is not true. By that means the case could be re-opened; one day the full truth could be known

What right does this man have to impugn these 9 people, if Kate has no right whatsoever to voice her opinions as she saw them concerning the lack of rigorous challenge to Amaral's shocking accusations? 

Offline faithlilly

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #414 on: September 20, 2016, 12:03:22 AM »
Genuine question - why were you trying to access the shop?  You obviously have no intention of ever buying anything so what's the fascination?  As a McCann supporter I've probably looked at that page once or twice in the last 5 years.

Ideal curiosity.

A question for you. Why do you think that with OG coming to an end next April the McCanns have, it would seem, stop taking donations if they are planning again to fund their own investigation?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #415 on: September 20, 2016, 12:09:22 AM »
Apparently it was in the paper in Portugal:  http://joana-morais.blogspot.co.nz/2016/04/investigate-incinerated-body-thesis.html
 
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by Sérgio A. Vitorino, Tânia Laranjo

Gonçalo Amaral, the former coordinator of the Judiciary Police who investigated the disappearance of Madeleine McCann in May 2007, in the Algarve, is very clear: "With the failure of all the investigations and the millions spent, which only wanted to discredit our line of investigation [that Maddie died accidentally and the parents concealed the body], it is now time to refocus the investigation."

Gonçalo Amaral said yesterday to CM that it should now be done in Portugal "the reconstruction that was never carried out and the laboratorial analysis of evidence which was never truly analysed, such as the hairs in the boot of the car where Madeleine's bodily fluids were found".

The retired investigator also stated that it is necessary to follow leads like the "incineration of Madeleine's body inside a coffin of a British subject" and to access the medical records of the girl in the UK, which has never been allowed.

in Correio da Manhã, April 24, 2016

Short transcript on this topic from CM Special: "Maddie, the Mystery"

Anchor João Ferreira - I would like for you to tell us in detail your explanation for the disappearance of the body, you have a thesis..

Gonçalo Amaral - No, I don't have one.

Anchor - ... in this book...

Gonçalo Amaral - No, in that book there isn't anything concerning what we just saw me saying on the news piece that was shown. Because these are elements, these are information that appeared afterwards and were never investigated. It's just an hypothesis, and when considering that hypothesis...

Anchor - An hypothesis that Madeleine's body could have been hidden, could have been incinerated, right?

Gonçalo Amaral - There's an information here, in the police, that mentions that. That in a night, three figures were seen carrying a bag, entering the church...

Anchor - In the Praia da Luz church.

Gonçalo Amaral - In that church was a coffin of a woman, a woman from the United Kingdom...

Anchor - Of a British woman.

Gonçalo Amaral - ... and in the following day that coffin was transferred to Ferreira do Alentejo to be incinerated. But no one is saying that the parents did that, or saying who did that. It's something that someone who is on the field investigating has to ascertain, must investigate thoroughly.

Anchor - But you concede that hypothesis, that possibility of Madeleine's cadaver being taken to the church, and then incinerated is a plausible hypothesis...

Gonçalo Amaral - We're practically starting by the end, first is the disappearance, if you allow me to explain, to explain to the viewers... [overlapping speech]

Anchor - I'll allow you, but just so not to lose this train of thought, is this hypothesis plausible for you?

Gonçalo Amaral - It is plausible, and I say plausible in this sense, that that body would fit underneath the cadaver that was already there.

Anchor - And it would fit?

Gonçalo Amaral - It would, yes. At the time, when I was already out of the Judiciary Police I obtained the opinion of people that dealt with that, of funeral agencies, and they said that it was a possibility. It's an opinion that is not officialized but it's a possibility. If it happened like that or not, we don't know, there are several hypotheses to make a body disappear.
OK they are hypotheses and that is what I said.  A investigating detective is allowed to make up these hypotheses in his mind or notes, but should he air them in public?
But there was a video where he says this in his own words.
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Offline misty

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #416 on: September 20, 2016, 12:10:21 AM »
@Faithlilly

The link to the online shop works for me.

Offline faithlilly

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #417 on: September 20, 2016, 12:27:28 AM »
@Faithlilly

The link to the online shop works for me.

As I said must be my iPad.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #418 on: September 20, 2016, 12:28:16 AM »
Apparently it was in the paper in Portugal:  http://joana-morais.blogspot.co.nz/2016/04/investigate-incinerated-body-thesis.html
 OK they are hypotheses and that is what I said.  A investigating detective is allowed to make up these hypotheses in his mind or notes, but should he air them in public?
But there was a video where he says this in his own words.
Irrespective of the Portuguese, the English translation is simple enough.

"Short transcript on this topic from CM Special: "Maddie, the Mystery"

 Anchor João Ferreira - I would like for you to tell us in detail your explanation for the disappearance of the body, you have a thesis..

 Gonçalo Amaral - No, I don't have one."

Correio da Manha is a TV station in Portugal as well as a newspaper.  It is obvious the interview was on the TV side.

Amaral says the line that an extra body was placed in a coffin should be investigated, not that it happened.  Nor does he finger the McCanns as body placers.  And in 2014 he was about 6 years away from being an investigative officer.

Need I continue?
What's up, old man?

Offline sadie

Re: Pick any sentence from Kate's book.
« Reply #419 on: September 20, 2016, 12:37:03 AM »
Ideal curiosity.

A question for you. Why do you think that with OG coming to an end next April the McCanns have, it would seem, stop taking donations if they are planning again to fund their own investigation?

Ah ?

Is that so?  How interesting

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