Pick any sentence from Kate's book.

[Brietta]

Well they had 12 hours or so to discuss it before the first statements were taken  Whose statement was first Rachel or Matt  and when?

I don't know if you are familiar with the work of Heriberto Janosch González on Madeleine McCann's case.
http://espacioexterior.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-janosch.html

He gives an easily understood and informative analysis of what may have happened ( at the link above) when the tapas group were trying to remember the events of that evening.
In my opinion it is well worth a read.

[stephen25000]

I don't know if you are familiar with the work of Heriberto Janosch González on Madeleine McCann's case.
http://espacioexterior.blogspot.co.uk/2013/04/the-madeleine-mccann-abduction-janosch.html

He gives an easily understood and informative analysis of what may have happened ( at the link above) when the tapas group were trying to remember the events of that evening.
In my opinion it is well worth a read.

...and a rather biased one.

[Brietta]

...and a rather biased one.

If there is anything you think Heri may have got wrong or be mistaken about, you should really contact him and let him know.
As a scholar he has carried out meticulous research into Madeleine's case and will not have put his name and reputation to erroneous information.

In my opinion, bias doesn't enter into his research.  He started off his investigation with an open mind with perhaps an initial slight bias against the McCanns and followed the evidence, which includes Kate's book, to reach his conclusions.

Would that there were more like him.

[G-Unit]

If there is anything you think Heri may have got wrong or be mistaken about, you should really contact him and let him know.
As a scholar he has carried out meticulous research into Madeleine's case and will not have put his name and reputation to erroneous information.

In my opinion, bias doesn't enter into his research.  He started off his investigation with an open mind with perhaps an initial slight bias against the McCanns and followed the evidence, which includes Kate's book, to reach his conclusions.

Would that there were more like him.

My only problem with Heri is that I can find no detailed explanation of how he decided that the parents were innocent. I have asked him twice on here, but he hasn't responded. If you know where on his site I can find that a link would be much appreciated.

[mercury]

Well they had 12 hours or so to discuss it before the first statements were taken  Whose statement was first Rachel or Matt  and when?

It was a matter of nearly 12 months not hours, keep up robby, and the answer to my question has not been forthcoming at all, ie, if matt wondered where madeleine slept, why did he not stick his head in the KIDS room but go out his way to look in the PARENTS room

?

[slartibartfast]

If there is anything you think Heri may have got wrong or be mistaken about, you should really contact him and let him know.
As a scholar he has carried out meticulous research into Madeleine's case and will not have put his name and reputation to erroneous information.

In my opinion, bias doesn't enter into his research.  He started off his investigation with an open mind with perhaps an initial slight bias against the McCanns and followed the evidence, which includes Kate's book, to reach his conclusions.

Would that there were more like him.

A bit of a an "appeal to authority " there?

[Robittybob1]

It was a matter of nearly 12 months not hours, keep up robby, and the answer to my question has not been forthcoming at all, ie, if matt wondered where madeleine slept, why did he not stick his head in the KIDS room but go out his way to look in the PARENTS room

?

Merc I will admit I was tired yesterday and not concentrating fully.  So you are saying I got it wrong that Rachel mentions it early.  I agree after 12 months there would be all sorts of communication between the group (I suppose friends keep in touch).
Where does the question mark get put?  "if matt wondered where madeleine slept, why did he not stick his head in the KIDS room but go out his way to look in the PARENTS room"

For to me that seems contradictory as Hell.  So could you make that clear and unambiguous please.

[mercury]

Merc I will admit I was tired yesterday and not concentrating fully.  So you are saying I got it wrong that Rachel mentions it early.  I agree after 12 months there would be all sorts of communication between the group (I suppose friends keep in touch).
Where does the question mark get put?  "if matt wondered where madeleine slept, why did he not stick his head in the KIDS room but go out his way to look in the PARENTS room"

For to me that seems contradictory as Hell.  So could you make that clear and unambiguous please.

No worries

Matt said he went to check on the children, stood at the door entrance and could see the cots with the two twins sleeping/breathing

He goes on to say he wondered where Madeleine slept

Two questions

1) why wonder where she slept if he didnt stick his heac round the door to see...it was the kids room after all
He must have known it was the KIDS (not just twins) room seeing as he did an audio check from outside the shutters at 9pm

2) why not do that, but instead go to another room to see if she slept there?

I dont understand what the problem is here

[stephen25000]

If there is anything you think Heri may have got wrong or be mistaken about, you should really contact him and let him know.
As a scholar he has carried out meticulous research into Madeleine's case and will not have put his name and reputation to erroneous information.

In my opinion, bias doesn't enter into his research.  He started off his investigation with an open mind with perhaps an initial slight bias against the McCanns and followed the evidence, which includes Kate's book, to reach his conclusions.

Would that there were more like him.

I already have to some extent.

Just remember he is giving his views and no more.

They are no more valid than any other person on here.

Likewise, I have researched his background.

P.S. How does Heriberto know KM's book is an accurate account of what happened, since the book is undeniably biased ?

[mercury]

If there is anything you think Heri may have got wrong or be mistaken about, you should really contact him and let him know.
As a scholar he has carried out meticulous research into Madeleine's case and will not have put his name and reputation to erroneous information.

In my opinion, bias doesn't enter into his research.  He started off his investigation with an open mind with perhaps an initial slight bias against the McCanns and followed the evidence, which includes Kate's book, to reach his conclusions.

Would that there were more like him.

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So hes the only one here!

Would that there be more like of them?

Or is just one conclusion the right one?
What about "scholars" that take issue with some of the "evidence"

[Robittybob1]

No worries

Matt said he went to check on the children, stood at the door entrance and could see the cots with the two twins sleeping/breathing

He goes on to say he wondered where Madeleine slept

Two questions

1) why wonder where she slept if he didnt stick his heac round the door to see...it was the kids room after all
He must have known it was the KIDS (not just twins) room seeing as he did an audio check from outside the shutters at 9pm

2) why not do that, but instead go to another room to see if she slept there?

I dont understand what the problem is here

Well thanks again Merc but to me that makes it even harder to explain.
1.  Did Matt know which side of the building the kids bedroom was?  OK I suppose he did since it was just through the wall from his apartment he might have heard enough noises during earlier part of the week to have learnt this.
(Does he do the 9:00 auditory check on the right side of the building?)

2. If he has any concerns about where Madeleine is asleep and goes to check whether Madeleine is in the adult's room, he would have found her either there or not there.  If she was not there he needed to have gone back to the kid's room and confirmed that she really was there.   I suppose he could have just assumed
 she must be asleep in the darkened kids bedroom.
I might have done it differently but that doesn't alter the facts.
We all might have done it differently but that doesn't alter the facts.

[mercury]

youre overthinking it

Matt checked the kids bedroom from outside, earlier at 9pm, ergo he knew all kids sleeping there

Matt goes inside at 9 30 and suddenly wonders where MM slept. Why?
And why NOT look in the kids bedroom, sigh
Maybe he did and saw she werent there!!!!

[jassi]

youre overthinking it

Matt checked the kids bedroom from outside, earlier at 9pm, ergo he knew all kids sleeping there

Matt goes inside at 9 30 and suddenly wonders where MM slept. Why?
And why NOT look in the kids bedroom, sigh
Maybe he did and saw she werent there!!!!

If that were the case, why was the alarm not raised at 9.30?

I bet that Matt really regretted taking Kate's turn, after the event. If he had stay clear of 5a, we wouldn't be questioning his actions.

[mercury]

If that were the case, why was the alarm not raised at 9.30?

I bet that Matt really regretted taking Kate's turn, after the event. If he had stay clear of 5a, we wouldn't be questioning his actions.

Quite but i still dint get his odd statement and that of his wife

[Robittybob1]

Quite but i still dint get his odd statement and that of his wife

You don't understand it Mercury?