What should the PJ have done differently?

[Mr Gray]

The police use all sorts of tactics to entrap a potential suspect.  They tell lies, they invent things and they threaten, nothing new there really. Oh the stories I could tell!

The PJ were badly under resourced without a doubt and struggled to undertake this investigation properly.  In my view Amaral did his best in very difficult circumstances.

amaral misunderstood much of what was going on. If that was the best he could do he was not much of a policeman

[G-Unit]

amaral misunderstood much of what was going on. If that was the best he could do he was not much of a policeman

I think he understood pretty well what was going on. He wanted to find Smithman and all the PI's except one missed that completely. It took SY two years with no distractions and huge resources to arrive at the point he reached in 4 months.

[Mr Gray]

I think he understood pretty well what was going on. He wanted to find Smithman and all the PI's except one missed that completely. It took SY two years with no distractions and huge resources to arrive at the point he reached in 4 months.

no he didnt,,,you are ignoring the facts. He thought the dogs showed maddie died in the apartment and he thought the dna was a match for maddie.....he was abysmally wrong...totally inept

[mercury]

amaral misunderstood much of what was going on. If that was the best he could do he was not much of a policeman

I bet he was a better policeman than you think you are, hes had decades of experience,

Lol

And besides you cant peove him wrong, even if he was, so.....

[Mr Gray]

I bet he was a better policeman than you think you are, hes had decades of experience,

Lol

And besides you cant peove him wrong, even if he was, so.....

i can prove he was pathetic...we all understand the dogs alerts were of no evidential reliability but he didnt...thats proof

[mercury]

i can prove he was pathetic...we all understand the dogs alerts were of no evidential reliability but he didnt...thats proof

No you cannot prove he was pathetic

[G-Unit]

no he didnt,,,you are ignoring the facts. He thought the dogs showed maddie died in the apartment and he thought the dna was a match for maddie.....he was abysmally wrong...totally inept

I see you are ignoring the fact I posted.

[G-Unit]

i can prove he was pathetic...we all understand the dogs alerts were of no evidential reliability but he didnt...thats proof

Do you have a cite please?

[mercury]

Do you have a cite please?

GA talking about dog alerts:
Chap 16

These conclusions do not, for the moment, constitute proof. If the laboratory results are positive, and only in that case, we will have our proof.

So davel is wrong

[Brietta]

Do you have a cite please?

Quote
My professional opinion as regards to the EVRD's alert indications is that it is suggestive that this is 'cadaver scent' contaminant. This does not however suggest a motive or suspect as cross contamination could be as a result of a
number of given scenarios and in any event no evidential or intelligence reliability can be made from these alerts unless they can be confirmed with corroborating evidence. End Quote
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MARTIN_GRIMES.htm

[Mr Gray]

Do you have a cite please?

a cite for what...surely you realise just how much amaral got wrong

[Mr Gray]

GA talking about dog alerts:
Chap 16

These conclusions do not, for the moment, constitute proof. If the laboratory results are positive, and only in that case, we will have our proof.

So davel is wrong

you are as confused as amaral.....what laboratory results would have provided proof. Even if maddies dna had been found in the car it would have proved nothing...amaral was totally wrong in his thinking

[Robittybob1]

you are as confused as amaral.....what laboratory results would have provided proof. Even if maddies dna had been found in the car it would have proved nothing...amaral was totally wrong in his thinking

if there was DNA and tissue from an internal organ it might be a different story.

[G-Unit]

GA talking about dog alerts:
Chap 16

These conclusions do not, for the moment, constitute proof. If the laboratory results are positive, and only in that case, we will have our proof.

So davel is wrong

I know that, you know that, and other open-minded people know that. Those whose  wish to discredit him will continue to spread untrue rumours, sadly. That's pretty pathetic because he did make mistakes, just not the ones they think he made. 

[Benice]

I know that, you know that, and other open-minded people know that. Those whose  wish to discredit him will continue to spread untrue rumours, sadly. That's pretty pathetic because he did make mistakes, just not the ones they think he made. 

What untrue rumours?  It's not a rumour to quote Amarals description of the dogs.  According to him Eddie would  alert ONLY if he found the scent of a dead body at the spot where he barked.      That is patently not true.   Not once does he mention that Eddie also alerts to blood from a living person, or that according to M. Grime there are other scenarios regarding cross-contamination which would also result in an alert. 

Amaral claims that an alert by Eddie proves that a dead body must have been there,

M. Harrison states that (because of other possible scenarios) an alert by Eddie does not prove that a dead body had been there.

So which one is correct in your opinion?

One thing that Amaral could have done differently was that just as he had instructed his officers to follow the UK police and report back their every move, he should have had his prime suspects under surveillance once they hired a car.        He would either have caught the McCanns in the act of moving a body in their car and it would have been game over  - or he would know that at no time did that happen.    What a vast difference to the case that would have made.

AIMHO