Author Topic: It's highly unlikely that the colour pink would show up under a sodium street light.  (Read 14171 times)

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Offline jassi

So to sum up this particular argument - JT says she saw pink, it is scientifically impossible for her to have seen pink, crecheman's daughter was wearing pink, JT was right.  The end.


Did she get anything else right?
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Offline ShiningInLuz

So to sum up this particular argument - JT says she saw pink, it is scientifically impossible for her to have seen pink, crecheman's daughter was wearing pink, JT was right.  The end.
Dunno.  As I have another visitor due to haul up soon, perhaps we should street-test this.
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Offline Carana

For what it's worth, as there are still some street lights like the old ones in PdL where I live, I went out one night and took notes of what colour I thought various objects were. I then went back in daylight and they were indeed the colour I'd noted.

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Did she get anything else right?
She got the details of the man and child she saw pretty much bang on didn't she?

Offline Robittybob1

Dunno.  As I have another visitor due to haul up soon, perhaps we should street-test this.
Please do.
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Offline G-Unit

So to sum up this particular argument - JT says she saw pink, it is scientifically impossible for her to have seen pink, crecheman's daughter was wearing pink, JT was right.  The end.

I would describe crecheman's child's pyjamas as being an orangy-pinky colour. Sodium lights pick up orange, so this reinforces that those were the pyjamas seen by Jane Tanner.

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Offline ShiningInLuz

I would describe crecheman's child's pyjamas as being an orangy-pinky colour. Sodium lights pick up orange, so this reinforces that those were the pyjamas seen by Jane Tanner.


Not wishing to be disparaging, but my eyes see those pyjamas as blue.  Do I need to get my eyes tested?
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Offline Brietta

Not wishing to be disparaging, but my eyes see those pyjamas as blue.  Do I need to get my eyes tested?

Me too ... but they might have shown up as being a lot lighter and be mistaken for white dependent on the lighting conditions.
Anyway, I don't think those are the PJs as seen and described by Jane Tanner.
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Offline sadie

Me too ... but they might have shown up as being a lot lighter and be mistaken for white dependent on the lighting conditions.
Anyway, I don't think those are the PJs as seen and described by Jane Tanner.
Neither do I.

Offline Robittybob1

Neither do I.
They could be, if  .... is Crecheman.
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Offline Carana

Dunno.  As I have another visitor due to haul up soon, perhaps we should street-test this.

The problem is that the lamps were replaced. Around where I live, there are both more recent ones and the older ones (which give off the same orangey light as in PdL at the time). I deliberately chose the orangey ones as I was actually expecting to find that at least some of my observations on colour would be incorrect when seen again in daylight.

I was quite surprised by this, as I'd had the frequent and irritating experience of hunting for small red objects under some kind of artificial lighting or other and discovered that anything red appeared black.


Offline jassi

Decades ago I lived in a street lit by sodium lights and and when it was dark and lit only by them, you couldn't tell the true colour of anything.
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Offline G-Unit

Not wishing to be disparaging, but my eyes see those pyjamas as blue.  Do I need to get my eyes tested?

So they are!!!  I was referring to the bands at the bottom, can you see them?
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Offline Carana

Decades ago I lived in a street lit by sodium lights and and when it was dark and lit only by them, you couldn't tell the true colour of anything.

All I can say is that I managed to with street lights giving off an orangey glow.

The contrasting experience concerned artificial lights in off-street situations in which red became black. No way in hell of finding an object that I knew to be red.

I expect that Alice would know more about various forms of public lighting, if he's in a good mood...

Offline John

Fascinating;

This is a sodium street light, as in Luz on 3rd May.



This is a magazine in normal electric light;



This is the same magazine under a sodium street light;


http://www.thenakedscientists.com/HTML/experiments/exp/why-sodium-street-lights-make-things-look-orange/

It's highly unlikely that the colour pink would show under sodium street lights, so Jane is probably mistaken.


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