Was the colour of the bedroom curtains as seen by Matt a clue?

[stephen25000]

Do we regard the "They've taken her" as a myth?

Indeed Slarti.

After all the Mccanns weren't there in the apartment, when Madeleine disappeared, were they.

[xtina]

Who thinks of forensics when they are in a state of shock after finding their daughter missing?    In my opinion Gerry wanted to see if the shutters could be raised from outside to rule out that Madeleine could have opened them from the inside.   He found that they could be raised.     Dianne wanted to see for herself by the look of it maybe she just wasn't strong enough to lift them.   

When the McCann's were absolutely sure that Madeleine couldn't have got out of the apartment by herself then they made sure nothing was touched in the bedroom.

who thinks abduction in a state of shock


your post as usual is full of ....maybe......could have ....opinion speculation

yet k mcc.......knew straight away maddie had been abducted.....

so ran out the apartment ..............

then let every one trample in there ......

after knowing ..they had taken her     

[Benice]

Indeed Slarti.

After all the Mccanns weren't there in the apartment, when Madeleine disappeared, were they.

And your point being...................?

[stephen25000]

who thinks abduction in a state of shock


your post as usual is full of ....maybe......could have ....opinion speculation

yet k mcc.......knew straight away maddie had been abducted.....

so ran out the apartment ..............

then let every one trample in there ......

after knowing ..they had taken her   

Indeed Xtina.

They claimed abduction too quickly, yet they were searching around the apartment and just outside, or so we are told.

Now we were also told initially, the apartment was locked, then a few days later it became unlocked, so Madeleine, if that was true could have walked out.

Then we have the protestation on the floor when the Police arrived, wailing, reminiscent of people praying.

Very little of the Mccanns accounts of events make sense.

[stephen25000]

And your point being...................?

Don't be foolish.

[Benice]

Don't be foolish.

Why is it foolish to ask you go clarify your comment which was in response to this question from Starti?  :-

''Do we regard the "They've taken her" as a myth?''

Your answer of ''Indeed Starti.  After all the Mccanns weren't there in the apartment, when Madeleine disappeared, were they.'' doesn't make sense as Starti was asking a question not making a statement. 

Could you please clarify whether you think it's a myth or not.  And if you believe it is a myth - then why do you believe that?

[stephen25000]

Why is it foolish to ask you go clarify your comment which was in response to this question from Starti?  :-

''Do we regard the "They've taken her" as a myth?''

Your answer of ''Indeed Starti.  After all the Mccanns weren't there in the apartment, when Madeleine disappeared, were they.'' doesn't make sense as Starti was asking a question not making a statement. 

Could you please clarify whether you think it's a myth or not.  And if you believe it is a myth - then why do you believe that?

How do you know that Kate Mccanns accounts of events are factual ?

Is it a belief on your part ?

Were you there ?

Since Kate McCann wasn't in the apartment when Madeleine disappeared, how would she know what happened ?

Have you forgotten what she said as regards this outside a Portuguese Court ?

There is no written law, to say that I have to believe Kate Mccanns story is there ?

[Benice]

who thinks abduction in a state of shock


your post as usual is full of ....maybe......could have ....opinion speculation

yet k mcc.......knew straight away maddie had been abducted.....

so ran out the apartment ..............

then let every one trample in there ......

after knowing ..they had taken her   

I notice that while you blame the parents for not behaving like policemen as soon as they found Madeleine missing -you have no criticism at all of the actual policemen themselves whose duty it was to behave like policemen  - but who failed miserably to secure the area as a priority  - resulting in far more people than necessary being allowed into 5A and dog hairs and fingerprint powder to be deposited all over the floors.   

How anyone can ignore those mistakes made by policemen who should have known better  - but instead choose to blame the distraught parents for not doing their job for them is incomprehensible to me.

[Lace]

who thinks abduction in a state of shock


your post as usual is full of ....maybe......could have ....opinion speculation

yet k mcc.......knew straight away maddie had been abducted.....

so ran out the apartment ..............

then let every one trample in there ......

after knowing ..they had taken her   

Are you for real?     Do you not think that parents who find their child missing would not think that someone had taken her?    I would think it would be more or less the first thing they would think of especially in a state of shock.

 Should Kate and Gerry have stood at the door of 5a and say  'don't come in' you are being ridiculous,  obviously people are going to enter 5a when they hear a child is missing.   

[stephen25000]

I notice that while you blame the parents for not behaving like policemen as soon as they found Madeleine missing -you have no criticism at all of the actual policemen themselves whose duty it was to behave like policemen  - but who failed miserably to secure the area as a priority  - resulting in far more people than necessary being allowed into 5A and dog hairs and fingerprint powder to be deposited all over the floors.   

How anyone can ignore those mistakes made by policemen who should have known better  - but instead choose to blame the distraught parents for not doing their job for them is incomprehensible to me.

Utter rubbish.

Madeleine was searched for extensively.

By the police, local residents and holidaymakers.

So don't try pulling on that old myth yet again.

[stephen25000]

Why is it foolish to ask you go clarify your comment which was in response to this question from Starti?  :-

''Do we regard the "They've taken her" as a myth?''

Your answer of ''Indeed Starti.  After all the Mccanns weren't there in the apartment, when Madeleine disappeared, were they.'' doesn't make sense as Starti was asking a question not making a statement. 

Could you please clarify whether you think it's a myth or not.  And if you believe it is a myth - then why do you believe that?

I was recalling facts, in case you hadn't noticed, including from Kate Mccanns mouth.

So tell me how could Kate Mccann say Madeleine had been abducted, if she wasn't there ?

[Lace]

Indeed Xtina.

They claimed abduction too quickly, yet they were searching around the apartment and just outside, or so we are told.

Now we were also told initially, the apartment was locked, then a few days later it became unlocked, so Madeleine, if that was true could have walked out.

Then we have the protestation on the floor when the Police arrived, wailing, reminiscent of people praying.

Very little of the Mccanns accounts of events make sense.

Abduction would be the first thing I would think of if I came back and found my child missing and a window open,  of course you would still look around outside in the hope that  she may have wandered out.

The front door was locked.

How can you mock Kate and Gerry praying and crying for their child,  disgusting.

[stephen25000]

Abduction would be the first thing I would think of if I came back and found my child missing and a window open,  of course you would still look around outside in the hope that  she may have wandered out.

The front door was locked.

How can you mock Kate and Gerry praying and crying for their child,  disgusting.

The other door was open, or so they claim, after first saying it was locked.

As to praying, I have never believed them to be committed religious people.

To me their behaviour in front of the police was an  act.

IMHO of course.

[Lace]

The other door was open, or so they claim, after first saying it was locked.

As to praying, I have never believed them to be committed religious people.

To me their behaviour in front of the police was an  act.

IMHO of course.

Gerry got confused and corrected himself about through which door he entered to check on the children.

They went to church Stephen,  I have never been in the position they were in,  but I don't find it unusual that parents resorted to prayer when they felt hopelessly unable to help their child who they couldn't find and had no idea what was happening to her.

[Benice]

Utter rubbish.

Madeleine was searched for extensively.

By the police, local residents and holidaymakers.

So don't try pulling on that old myth yet again.

I suggest you read my post again as your response does not address any of the points made in it -  in any way shape or form.