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Offline jassi

Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #15 on: October 19, 2016, 05:42:40 PM »
I think the DAC was wise to be cautious
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfie

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Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #16 on: October 19, 2016, 06:25:06 PM »
what short memories some people have:

Redwood "These offences are very serious and no one has been charged in connection with them. We also need to eliminate this man from our inquiries and ascertain whether these offences are linked to Madeleine's disappearance," he said.

"If you have been a victim of a similar crime please come forward even if you reported the incident to police in Portugal, or anywhere else, please do not assume we have been made aware of it."

There was also a "very close resonance" to some features of Madeleine's disappearance, said Redwood.

"We really need to identify the offender, to bring to a close the trauma and the tragedy that these families have suffered, and then seek to establish whether this is connected to Madeleine's disappearance."

Also, from the same article, this (which will no doubt be scoffed at as the source is not named):

Scotland Yard also revealed it was looking at 38 "people of interest" in relation to her disappearance, having dismissed 22 others from that category. They were also trying to find out more about 530 known sex offenders – 59 regarded as of high interest – across Europe.

However Portugal's Polícia Judiciária (PJ) claimed that Wednesday's press conference simply confirmed a primary line of investigation which has been investigated by Portuguese police since last October. Suggestions that the information released by the Met had initially been discounted by Portuguese detectives were denied by a source at the PJ's headquarters in Lisbon.


He said that evidence of a string of crimes had been the driving force behind Portuguese officials re-opening the case. "It is all there in the police case files," said the source. "You will see when it is made public."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

Offline jassi

Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #17 on: October 19, 2016, 06:28:42 PM »
what short memories some people have:

Redwood "These offences are very serious and no one has been charged in connection with them. We also need to eliminate this man from our inquiries and ascertain whether these offences are linked to Madeleine's disappearance," he said.

"If you have been a victim of a similar crime please come forward even if you reported the incident to police in Portugal, or anywhere else, please do not assume we have been made aware of it."

There was also a "very close resonance" to some features of Madeleine's disappearance, said Redwood.

"We really need to identify the offender, to bring to a close the trauma and the tragedy that these families have suffered, and then seek to establish whether this is connected to Madeleine's disappearance."

Also, from the same article, this (which will no doubt be scoffed at as the source is not named):

Scotland Yard also revealed it was looking at 38 "people of interest" in relation to her disappearance, having dismissed 22 others from that category. They were also trying to find out more about 530 known sex offenders – 59 regarded as of high interest – across Europe.

However Portugal's Polícia Judiciária (PJ) claimed that Wednesday's press conference simply confirmed a primary line of investigation which has been investigated by Portuguese police since last October. Suggestions that the information released by the Met had initially been discounted by Portuguese detectives were denied by a source at the PJ's headquarters in Lisbon.


He said that evidence of a string of crimes had been the driving force behind Portuguese officials re-opening the case. "It is all there in the police case files," said the source. "You will see when it is made public."

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve

And did he achieve any of that ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Alfie

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Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #18 on: October 19, 2016, 06:42:13 PM »
And did he achieve any of that ?
I have no idea what has or hasn't been achieved as the Met don't give a running commentary on their progress but that is beside the point.  You wanted evidence that the police were linking these incidents to Madeleine's case - I have provided it. 

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2016, 09:16:30 PM »
I have no idea what has or hasn't been achieved as the Met don't give a running commentary on their progress but that is beside the point.  You wanted evidence that the police were linking these incidents to Madeleine's case - I have provided it.

DCI Redwood did not link them except in the sense they are mentioned in the same sentence.
He seems to have said look to see if they are connected/linked.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2016, 11:18:04 PM »
It seems to be saying that someone who didn't report anything in 2005 but waited 9 years before reporting an assault in Portugal to SY in 2014.

 &%+((£
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfie

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Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2016, 11:22:27 PM »
It seems to be saying that someone who didn't report anything in 2005 but waited 9 years before reporting an assault in Portugal to SY in 2014.

 &%+((£
What does?  Please provide a cite.

Offline mercury

Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2016, 11:24:42 PM »
It was difficult to work out when or if the offences were reported to the police. There was an impression that people came forward as part of the appeal.

If one or 100 were reported none were abductions

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2016, 11:27:02 PM »
What does?  Please provide a cite.

Maybe you should read Briettas post.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfie

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Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2016, 11:34:32 PM »
Maybe you should read Briettas post.
Thanks, I have now.  I don't know what is puzzling you though.  Sometimes it takes years for victims of historical sex abuse to pluck up the courage to come forward.  Why does this seem to puzzle you so?

Offline mercury

Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2016, 11:38:23 PM »
Thanks, I have now.  I don't know what is puzzling you though.  Sometimes it takes years for victims of historical sex abuse to pluck up the courage to come forward.  Why does this seem to puzzle you so?


It wasnt them that took years to come forward it was their parents.
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Offline Brietta

Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2016, 12:56:40 AM »

It wasnt them that took years to come forward it was their parents.

Some may not have told their parents at the time.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #27 on: October 20, 2016, 01:16:40 AM »
Some may not have told their parents at the time.

Yeah ok brietta nice try

Alfie

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Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2016, 09:26:52 AM »
Some may not have told their parents at the time.
Quite feasible.  I've yet to tell my parents about my own brush with a paedo.  Wouldn't want to upset them.

Offline mercury

Re: What do we know about the sexual intrusions in the Algarve?
« Reply #29 on: October 21, 2016, 12:34:58 AM »
Quite feasible.  I've yet to tell my parents about my own brush with a paedo.  Wouldn't want to upset them.

Yes so a wave of kids decided to after crimewatch. Ok then