Author Topic: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?  (Read 41371 times)

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Offline John

There is no doubt that former Portuguese police coordinator Gonçalo Amaral has formed a view as to what befell Madeleine McCann and has not been shy in speaking his mind on the disappearance whenever the opportunity arises.  He is entitled to hold a view and espouse a theory just as everyone else is entitled to, he is also free to impugn any person or persons based on the knowledge he himself has gleamed from the investigation but what he is not entitled to do is defame.

His theory based on the knowledge he had as coordinator of the investigation prior to his removal from the case in August 2007 allows him certain advantages over the rest of us. As coordinator he was at the centre of the investigation with all the detectives involved in the case answering directly to him. He was also central to the involvement of the English police and was extremely cognisant of their thoughts on the investigation.  Indeed, it was the involvement and actions of the English police which indirectly brought about his own demise and eventual removal from the investigation when he complained to the Press about said involvement.

Amaral might well have promoted the thesis that Madeleine died in apartment 5a but proving it is another matter.

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« Last Edit: November 17, 2016, 10:16:10 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Brietta

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #1 on: October 27, 2016, 09:45:43 AM »
In my opinion there have been many times in the past when one could have expected he might be utterly embarrassed and humiliated and from which he has unashamedly bounced back without a blush (dare one mention the coffin invasion and the double cremation as just one example).
So in my opinion, in the happy event of Madeleine being discovered alive and well, I do not have the slightest doubt he will find an acceptable - to some - explanation for his actions over the past few years.
Nor do I doubt there are those who will believe whatever he says.

« Last Edit: October 27, 2016, 02:27:37 PM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Brietta

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #2 on: October 27, 2016, 10:19:17 AM »

« Last Edit: October 27, 2016, 01:41:48 PM by John »
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Alfie

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Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #3 on: October 27, 2016, 10:21:39 AM »
It is totally in Amaral's interests for Madeleine never to be found alive, that's for sure!

stephen25000

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Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #4 on: October 27, 2016, 10:22:32 AM »

That is not championing her death, and I would suggest that the vast majority of people who know of the case believe she is no longer alive.

That does not mean, you wish someone dead, DOES IT.

Offline Brietta

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #5 on: October 27, 2016, 11:19:10 AM »
That is not championing her death, and I would suggest that the vast majority of people who know of the case believe she is no longer alive.

That does not mean, you wish someone dead, DOES IT.

Among the dictionary definition for 'championing' are ~ advocate ~ promote ~ defend ~ uphold ~ support ~ back ~  espouse ~ ally oneself with ~ campaign for ~ lobby for ~ fight for ~ battle for ~ crusade for ~ propose ~ sponsor ~  vouch for;

If one builds a media persona and a career as an author based solely on the personal theory that a child is dead in particular circumstances and takes every opportunity to publicise that personal opinion ... which of the above words meaning to champion do you consider applicable?

Comment - 993
This money is for you Amaral our public face for justice!! This money is to fight  ...

Comment 990
For justice and dignity

Comment 984
 ... please Goncalo keep up the fight for Justice ...
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/_gafund500.htm

From these and many more relevant comments from the same location concerning Madeleine's supposed fate ... it can be seen that Amaral has been extraordinarily successful in getting his message across.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

stephen25000

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Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2016, 11:24:52 AM »
Among the dictionary definition for 'championing' are ~ advocate ~ promote ~ defend ~ uphold ~ support ~ back ~  espouse ~ ally oneself with ~ campaign for ~ lobby for ~ fight for ~ battle for ~ crusade for ~ propose ~ sponsor ~  vouch for;

If one builds a media persona and a career as an author based solely on the personal theory that a child is dead in particular circumstances and takes every opportunity to publicise that personal opinion ... which of the above words meaning to champion do you consider applicable?

Comment - 993
This money is for you Amaral our public face for justice!! This money is to fight  ...

Comment 990
For justice and dignity

Comment 984
 ... please Goncalo keep up the fight for Justice ...
http://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/_gafund500.htm

From these and many more relevant comments from the same location concerning Madeleine's supposed fate ... it can be seen that Amaral has been extraordinarily successful in getting his message across.

Amaral is but one man.

Many other people believe Madeleine is no longer alive.

He has a career as a policeman, until he was removed from the case, and as for the case itself, BLAME Gerry and Kate Mccann.

Their actions precipitated this case, and there is no getting away from that.

Offline Angelo222

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2016, 11:25:43 AM »
It is totally in Amaral's interests for Madeleine never to be found alive, that's for sure!

That is very true but remember we don't know everything that Amaral knows about the circumstances of Maddie's disappearance. To be honest he is most probably right about her being dead, I know it is a hard pill to swallow for some but in all reality it is the most likely outcome given what we know. 

Don't get me wrong though, it is not the outcome I or any sensible human being would want but it is just facing reality. The last searches by Redwood would seem to confirm this, he was looking for remains and not a live child.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2016, 11:29:07 AM by Angelo222 »
De troothe has the annoying habit of coming to the surface just when you least expect it!!

Je ne regrette rien!!

Offline Brietta

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2016, 11:50:10 AM »
Amaral is but one man.

Many other people believe Madeleine is no longer alive.

He has a career as a policeman, until he was removed from the case, and as for the case itself, BLAME Gerry and Kate Mccann.

Their actions precipitated this case, and there is no getting away from that.

Amaral is the architect of his own misfortune as regards his career with the Policia Judiciaria.

His book carried the weight of being authored by the lead detective in Madeleine's case and purported to tell the truth of the lie.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Benice

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #9 on: October 27, 2016, 11:50:48 AM »
That is very true but remember we don't know everything that Amaral knows about the circumstances of Maddie's disappearance. To be honest he is most probably right about her being dead, I know it is a hard pill to swallow for some but in all reality it is the most likely outcome given what we know. 

Don't get me wrong though, it is not the outcome I or any sensible human being would want but it is just facing reality.

Most people acknowledge that she may be dead, even her parents do that.    However until proof is found, then people, especially her parents, will continue to hope that she is still alive and can be found.   

If Amaral had any evidence that she was dead he would have revealed it to the authorities by now.   

Until there is evidence to the contrary -  Madeleine has the right to be considered to be a live missing child.  Amaral does not have the right to try to convince the public that she is dead, and insodoing seek to deprive her of that right. 

IMO

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #10 on: October 27, 2016, 11:58:30 AM »
Amaral is the architect of his own misfortune as regards his career with the Policia Judiciaria.

His book carried the weight of being authored by the lead detective in Madeleine's case and purported to tell the truth of the lie.

To the contrary.

Amaral was doing his job.

It is Madeleine who suffered the from the Mccanns behaviour. They were supposed to take care of her and her siblings.

They failed miserably to do so.

IMHO of course.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #11 on: October 27, 2016, 03:46:20 PM »
Re: the thread title, yes. In no way was he responsible for what happened to Madeleine, yet to some he is go to bogey man when anyone want to produce a straw man.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2016, 06:07:41 PM by John »
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #12 on: October 27, 2016, 03:55:40 PM »
Re: the thread title, yes. In no way was he responsible for what happened to Madeleine, yet to some he is go to bogey man when anyone want to produce a straw man.

Along with Martin Grime and The Ciprianos... @)(++(*
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2016, 04:59:18 PM »
It is totally in Amaral's interests for Madeleine never to be found alive, that's for sure!

Now if I changed Amaral to the McCanns what would the reaction be. Let me know when you want it removing.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

ferryman

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Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2016, 05:03:52 PM »
Now if I changed Amaral to the McCanns what would the reaction be. Let me know when you want it removing.

No comparison.

Kate and Gerry McCann are Madeleine's parents.

Amaral wrote a book accusing Madeleine's parents.

I would say it is in Amaral's interests (entirely selfish and egotistical!) that Madeleine never be found alive.
« Last Edit: October 27, 2016, 06:03:45 PM by John »