Author Topic: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?  (Read 41406 times)

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Alfie

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Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #45 on: October 28, 2016, 12:01:56 AM »
We seem to have a thread that is self proving. We have a group of people who believe an abductor took a little girl left alone in an unlocked apartment and an investigating policeman is the bad guy.
He's one of the bad guys, not AS bad as the abductor who took the little girl but bad enough.

Alfie

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Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #46 on: October 28, 2016, 12:05:39 AM »
The insinuations Amaral made in his book re Calpol are  unmistakeable IMO.    Why would he even  mention Calpol if it wasn't his intention to plant seeds in his readers' minds?    What other reason could there be?
In the minds of those who believe the McCanns are guilty of a cover up there needs to be a sinister reason for hiding the body after the child's supposedly fatal accident.  The motive as clearly hinted at by Amaral is that the McCanns sedated their children, and that is why they needed to cover up the death, because without the sedation aspect there would have been no need for a cover up.  THAT is why it's mentioned in the book, and it's an integral part of his thesis. 

Offline mercury

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #47 on: October 28, 2016, 12:40:57 AM »
He's one of the bad guys, not AS bad as the abductor who took the little girl but bad enough.

Indeed
Everyone is a bad guy except them as evidenced in kate mccanns nauseous book
« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 12:49:39 AM by mercury »

Offline Brietta

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #48 on: October 28, 2016, 01:16:46 AM »
In the minds of those who believe the McCanns are guilty of a cover up there needs to be a sinister reason for hiding the body after the child's supposedly fatal accident.  The motive as clearly hinted at by Amaral is that the McCanns sedated their children, and that is why they needed to cover up the death, because without the sedation aspect there would have been no need for a cover up.  THAT is why it's mentioned in the book, and it's an integral part of his thesis.

I think there may be an element of attack being the best form of defence.

Quite brilliant, actually.

Having launched the McCanns into the maelstrom of suspicion ... nobody was scrutinising his performance when a serving officer while at the same time failing to bother with the official  archiving report.

b) The archiving of the Process concerning Arguidos Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Marie Healy, because there are no indications of the practise of any crime under the dispositions of article 277 number 1 of the Penal Process Code.
http://steelmagnolia-mccannarchives.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/pj-legal-summary-there-is-no-evidence.html
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #49 on: October 28, 2016, 01:45:51 AM »
I think there may be an element of attack being the best form of defence.

Quite brilliant, actually

Indeed, the exact strategy of the mccanns throughout.....but with money demanded as well, in fct a whole million
Even though "it was never about money" lol sad

Offline John

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #50 on: October 28, 2016, 01:52:58 AM »
accusing someone of lying to the police....committing perjury...is defamation however much you try to pretend it is

Perjury is something which occurs in court before a judge and not a police officer, I don't believe there has been a criminal trial yet so no defamation.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #51 on: October 28, 2016, 01:55:26 AM »
Why mention Calpol and Madeleine's sleeping at all then? Come off it Angelo, answer my main point or are you now going to claim that Amaral did not impugn the McCanns nor firmly put them in the frame in his book?

A detectives role is to investigate all possibilities and that is exactly what Amaral did.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #52 on: October 28, 2016, 01:58:48 AM »
So can we impugn the McCanns and Robert Murat and Martin Grime on this forum and not have you dole out points for libel then??  Some clarity please.

You do know what impugn means?  It isn't always to do with integrity.

impugn
ɪmˈpjuːn/
verb

to dispute the truth, validity, or honesty of (a statement or motive); call into question.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 02:17:26 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #53 on: October 28, 2016, 02:04:32 AM »
He's one of the bad guys, not AS bad as the abductor who took the little girl but bad enough.

Is that an observation or just wishful thinking?
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #54 on: October 28, 2016, 02:09:45 AM »
I think there may be an element of attack being the best form of defence.

Quite brilliant, actually.

Having launched the McCanns into the maelstrom of suspicion ... nobody was scrutinising his performance when a serving officer while at the same time failing to bother with the official  archiving report.

b) The archiving of the Process concerning Arguidos Gerald Patrick McCann and Kate Marie Healy, because there are no indications of the practise of any crime under the dispositions of article 277 number 1 of the Penal Process Code.
http://steelmagnolia-mccannarchives.blogspot.co.uk/2011/12/pj-legal-summary-there-is-no-evidence.html

Agreed that the AG found there to be no indications of the practise of any crime but that's not to say there weren't any.  They do say that the truth is but a lie yet undiscovered.
« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 05:47:55 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline mercury

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #55 on: October 28, 2016, 02:20:04 AM »
A detectives role is to investigate all possibilities and that is exactly what Amaral did.

In answer to the Op YES of course hes the fall guy, too many lies told about him and everythingblamed on him, its truly extremely pathetic and desperate and dishonest
Oh well see ya

« Last Edit: October 28, 2016, 11:16:58 AM by John »

Offline Brietta

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #56 on: October 28, 2016, 03:19:49 AM »
Agreed that the AG found there to be no indications of the practise of any crime but that's not to say there weren't any.  They do say that the truth is but a lie yet undiscovered.

You are shocking me, John.  The McCanns really do seem to have had their right to the presumption of innocence forfeited for them mainly through the efforts of this one man.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline Eleanor

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #57 on: October 28, 2016, 03:38:15 AM »

They seem to have forfeited this right in the minds of too many, mainly instigated by Amaral who seems to have decided on day one, according to his book.

Offline G-Unit

Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #58 on: October 28, 2016, 05:59:38 AM »
You are shocking me, John.  The McCanns really do seem to have had their right to the presumption of innocence forfeited for them mainly through the efforts of this one man.

As there's been no trial they still enjoy the presumption of innocence in law. It means they wouldn't have to prove their innocence if charged with an offence, the onus is on the prosecution to prove their guilt.

It's a fact that the McCanns came under suspicion and were therefore made arguidos. That clearly wasn't through the efforts of one man, that would be ridiculous.
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stephen25000

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Re: Has Gonçalo Amaral become the fall guy in the Madeleine McCann case?
« Reply #59 on: October 28, 2016, 06:43:06 AM »
You are shocking me, John.  The McCanns really do seem to have had their right to the presumption of innocence forfeited for them mainly through the efforts of this one man.

Utter rubbish.

They haven't been charged.


The 'poor me' Mccann act wore out a long time ago.

Just feel sorry for the Madeleine, not her parents, as they are the ones who initiated this case.