Did OC reception let Madeleine down?

[Brietta]

It was a phrase or something similar that has been used by the PJ (Tavares and Goncalo, and just about all the senior OC management saying "there was no sign of a break-in" or such like.
What it meant to the PJ seemed to allow them to point the finger back at the parents in the sense "they killed the child but staged it to look like an abduction".  That is only one possible option.  I think good detective work should have allowed them to explore other options that would give a similar appearance (scene) and result (MM missing).

Perhaps along the lines of who might have had access to a key for the recessed wooden door and exactly the protocols in place for their access.  If questioned appropriately perhaps someone would have 'cracked' well before 2014 and imparted the information that ...  “I remember my colleague telling some of us the keys had been lost. He told us about it in the week when the child was taken”
Think of the direction possession of that information might have led the investigators to follow.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/364749/Resort-worker-says-keys-to-Madeleine-McCann-s-room-were-stolen-before-she-disappeared

[Robittybob1]

Abductor, Robittybob1 ?

Really ???

Could you talk to me properly so I and everyone else can understand you?

[Robittybob1]

Perhaps along the lines of who might have had access to a key for the recessed wooden door and exactly the protocols in place for their access.  If questioned appropriately perhaps someone would have 'cracked' well before 2014 and imparted the information that ...  “I remember my colleague telling some of us the keys had been lost. He told us about it in the week when the child was taken”
Think of the direction possession of that information might have led the investigators to follow.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/364749/Resort-worker-says-keys-to-Madeleine-McCann-s-room-were-stolen-before-she-disappeared

That too, but that would imply it was very much an inside job and severely implicating OC staff. (Well could be but not definite.)

[Brietta]

That too, but that would imply it was very much an inside job and severely implicating OC staff.

The Policia Judiciaria did question members of the Ocean Club staff ... maybe they just didn't ask the right questions.

[stephen25000]

That too, but that would imply it was very much an inside job and severely implicating OC staff.

You really need to stop making things up.

[pathfinder73]

I do think if a third party found a child left asleep in the gardens they might take her away with "good intentions".  Who would leave a girl abandoned asleep under some bushes?  Maybe most of us would for we wouldn't want to be implicated in any way.  It is a tricky situation that has been demonstrated many times, people will not get involved if they can help it.

Take her away with good intentions not to be seen again? Get real that's a crime! It's not a tricky situation. If you find a 3 year old under a bush you do the right thing and bring her to the authorities/creche/OC or call them/get help because she's not yours  - you don't leave her there alone on a dark cold night.

[stephen25000]

Could you talk to me properly so I and everyone else can understand you?

I did.

[Robittybob1]

Take her away with good intentions not to be seen again? Get real that's a crime! It's not a tricky situation. If you find a 3 year old under a bush you do the right thing and bring her to the authorities/creche/OC or call them/get help because she's not yours  - you don't leave her there alone on a dark cold night.

The "good intentions" when a rescuer first finds her and picks her up.  They are the intentions I'm exploring.  Later e.g. the next day he might have second thoughts and I think you are confusing the two.
They might have second thoughts.  For what explanation would the finder have for being there in the first place.

There is a classic ad in NZ where this person finds a piglet and discovers who owns it and as he is bringing it back to the right farm he reads the sign "Free Range Pork"  and decides to keep the piglet for himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KTfyrTTey8  Can you see the connection to Madeleine McCann?
I see there is an Irish version too. https://youtu.be/e2b_2-8GYyQ
It is quite funny really.

[Robittybob1]

The Policia Judiciaria did question members of the Ocean Club staff ... maybe they just didn't ask the right questions.

Or didn't apply sufficient torture?  There is the difficulty in a situation like that that the person could just lie.  When I read all the statements I don't see any attempt to verify anyone's alibi.  If an OC driver says he stayed home that night it is accepted (random example).  I can not tell from that if that was a fact or not.  Yet with Robert Murat even when his mother vouched for him he wasn't believed.

[Robittybob1]

You really need to stop making things up.

You are right this time.

[misty]

Or didn't apply sufficient torture?  There is the difficulty in a situation like that that the person could just lie.  When I read all the statements I don't see any attempt to verify anyone's alibi.  If an OC driver says he stayed home that night it is accepted (random example).  I can not tell from that if that was a fact or not.  Yet with Robert Murat even when his mother vouched for him he wasn't believed.

The OC staff were questioned as witnesses. In Portugal, witnesses cannot be asked leading questions but they are obliged to answer any question truthfully.
RM was questioned as an arguido. As such, the questioning could be leading but equally he was permitted to know what evidence the police had to justify suspicion.

[Miss Taken Identity]

Perhaps along the lines of who might have had access to a key for the recessed wooden door and exactly the protocols in place for their access.  If questioned appropriately perhaps someone would have 'cracked' well before 2014 and imparted the information that ...  “I remember my colleague telling some of us the keys had been lost. He told us about it in the week when the child was taken”
Think of the direction possession of that information might have led the investigators to follow.

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/364749/Resort-worker-says-keys-to-Madeleine-McCann-s-room-were-stolen-before-she-disappeared

All this about keys and we already know the apartment was UNLOCKED...

[Robittybob1]

Where is that?
.....

Firstly it is in Robin Crossland's statement http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic9-40.html

. That at around 22H50, local elements of the GNR arrived and took charge of the occurrence, and began to manage and lead the search operations of the child missing in the area;

Also John Hill (except I don't believe his statement). 

The deponent thinks that the GNR arrived at the scene at about 22.45,...

http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic9-40.html

What they arrived just 3 minutes after being called at 22H42 they wouldn't even be off the phone by then.  He is dubious IMO.

[I see it sounds like Tapas had a walk-in freezer Miguel Salcedos Coelho "When questioned, he says that he did not notice when the guests left, at about 22.00 his cousin told him what had happened, seeing as the witness had been inside the fridge (cold store). http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic9-120.html]

[Alice Purjorick]

All this about keys and we already know the apartment was UNLOCKED...

But only the back door.
As I recall the theory is the abductor bootlegged the key to the front door and made his entrance then opened the windows and shutters to give the old bill a bumsteer then went out of the front door, with the child, closing the door behind him.
Having been casing the joint all week and failing to notice the back door was always left open............ &%+((£
One really would not want him on one's team would one?

[Robittybob1]

All this about keys and we already know the apartment was UNLOCKED...

But if you had keys you would not need to see if the other doors were unlocked, even quicker in and out in seconds and all done from the carpark side of the building which the T9 could not see from the restaurant.