Did OC reception let Madeleine down?

[jassi]

personally I think we've done alright so far.  That's all I'll say on this matter.

Seriously ?

Mind you, I suppose it does all depend on what you are trying to achieve.

[Robittybob1]

Seriously ?

John knows what I'm talking about.  It might just be my paranoia but I think there has been real progress in solving the case. 
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ARLINDO-PELEGA.htm  there is a real mystery in that statement.  No one says Dianne Webster is left at that table so it can't be the Tapas 9 table he is referring to.  Bugs me.

Too early in the evening to be Kate's alert, and being a stickler on telling the time he definitely isn't an hour out. 

[sadie]

Do you remember their names?  Thanks.
 Patio door: Just open it and close it.
Would there be any evidence?

Apart from people /person movement on the illuminated patio, as the curtains were moved to allow access, a shaft of light from the table lamp would suddenly light up the outside area.  It wouldn't be intense light but it would be noticeable.  Also the person entering would be outlined against the light and could potentially have been seen bu people in the villas opposite or walking along the street

Dont think the patio door was used Rob

I think that Amaral was right.  No-one would go in that way.

[jassi]

John knows what I'm talking about.  It might just be my paranoia but I think there has been real progress in solving the case. 
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ARLINDO-PELEGA.htm  there is a real mystery in that statement.  No one says Dianne Webster is left at that table so it can't be the Tapas 9 table he is referring to.  Bugs me.

Too early in the evening to be Kate's alert, and being a stickler on telling the time he definitely isn't an hour out.

His 21.40 doesn't sit well with Gerry et al being at the table at 22.00.

[Alice Purjorick]

Trouble is Alice, even Amaral knew better than you

... and he said that NO abductor/intruder would go in by the patio/back door because it was so close to the Tapas group (50 metres approx) and also well illuminated by the street lamp immediately opposite.

Seems the person casing the joint understood this too.

Schade!

I just love it when the plan requires more twists than a helix to make it work.

[pathfinder73]

Apart from people /person movement on the illuminated patio, as the curtains were moved to allow access, a shaft of light from the table lamp would suddenly light up the outside area.  It wouldn't be intense light but it would be noticeable.  Also the person entering would be outlined against the light and could potentially have been seen bu people in the villas opposite or walking along the street

Dont think the patio door was used Rob

I think that Amaral was right.  No-one would go in that way.

Provide the Amaral cite? The image below in his book shows how hard it was to see and how easy it was for anyone to go in that way unseen. Gerry didn't notice Jane only feet away never mind 50 metres and Kate's back was facing the apartment so she was as much use as a chocolate fire guard.





I notice nobody was sat between Gerry and David.

[Alice Purjorick]

Trouble is Alice, even Amaral knew better than you

... and he said that NO abductor/intruder would go in by the patio/back door because it was so close to the Tapas group (50 metres approx) and also well illuminated by the street lamp immediately opposite.

Seems the person casing the joint understood this too.

There is of course one fundamental flaw in your basic premise.

[ShiningInLuz]

Who will apply pressure an to whom?
SY appear no further forward than the PJ were, for all their effort and expenditure.
I can't see a denouncement in the library in the manner of Agatha Christie.   

That of course would require getting all the principal characters in the same library, an event which seems to have been turned down already.

 

[sadie]

Schade!

I just love it when the plan requires more twists than a helix to make it work.

So you dont value Amarals spoutings, even on this?

Amaral did NOT think that any intruder would go in via the patio doors because of their proximity to the tapas group.  Full stop.

No twists there unless you are suggesting that Amaral is a twister ?

[sadie]

There is of course one fundamental flaw in your basic premise.

ORLY ?

[Robittybob1]

His 21.40 doesn't sit well with Gerry et al being at the table at 22.00.

Is that Gerry's table?

[Robittybob1]

His 21.40 doesn't sit well with Gerry et al being at the table at 22.00.

The topic has been dicussed slightly in the past http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1836.25;wap2  it comes up on Google.  "Heribertos take on 'Persons of Interest'."  I still have contact with Heribertos via email.

[Robittybob1]

You might remember this post G-unit?  "The Carpenters - Calling out of Madelene Madeleine" http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=6446.40;wap2  So what Arlindo sees is confirmed by Steven Carpenter.

[Robittybob1]

I think you nearly got it G-unit! http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7060.msg318179#msg318179
Did you ever think Arlindo is talking about a different table to the Tapas 9?  3 couples not 4 and no one left after the table cleared.  Too early for Kate's alert.

This one is even better http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3976.msg362067#msg362067  You have referenced Jeronimo talking to Arlindo, is that right?  Arlindo is asked to ring the police?  Did I get that right?  No he was asked to ring the restaurant??? But they were already at the restaurant!

[Alice Purjorick]

So you dont value Amarals spoutings, even on this?

Amaral did NOT think that any intruder would go in via the patio doors because of their proximity to the tapas group.  Full stop.

No twists there unless you are suggesting that Amaral is a twister ?

When looking at this I start from the premise that like everyone else I am not in posession of the full facts. I  have no preconceived idea of who did what with which and to whom and who said what. I also work on the premise that most "facts" have been distorted by both "sides" to the point where if anyone on here told me the sun rose in the east I would not believe it until I had checked it myself with UKAS certified compass.
So strip away all the blx and look the bare problem: why run the risk of bootlegging a front door key or breaking in when you can march right in through an open door? And remember your schooldays, if you look as though you should be doing it you will attract little attention.