Did OC reception let Madeleine down?

[ShiningInLuz]

Patel Cox and Irwin they seem to be the other 3 couples present from the list.  I'm aware the PJ tried to identify the Irwin couple.  Were they booked in as MW customers?

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/400796/Mystery-couple-seen-going-into-McCanns-flat-on-night-before-sobbing-Madeleine-disappeared  was this the Irwin couple? 

The blogger TextUSA asks some valid questions: http://textusa.blogspot.co.nz/2011/03/real-quiz-night-at-tapas.htmlWere they paying for their food each and every night?  If they were they all seem to have done a runner on the Thursday night!

MW was half board as many statements attest, breakfast plus dinner.  Wine allowance was said to be 1 bottle per adult per night.  Additional drinks, e.g. Wed 2nd, seem to have been paid for at the time.  I've got no idea what Thomas Cook did, nor the arrangement if it was an owner let.

[Robittybob1]

Why would Matt make the whole thing up, assuming it didn't happen?  When you give a statement you tend to remember more what you did, than what others did (unless specifically asked) - perhaps that is the explanation?

Matt asked them to ring the police but not in a convincing way.

[Alfie]

Matt asked them to ring the police but not in a convincing way.

How do you know how he asked?

[Robittybob1]

The calls were ar 2241 and 2252

The first two GNR arrive at 10:50 so the 10:52 call can't be a request for the GNR to attend.

[Robittybob1]

And, of course, as Robitty says, calls could have been made on a different landline or even a mobile.

Or even a different number

[Robittybob1]

Well there is, ie you, asserted the tapas believed she had escaped thats why they didnt shout abduction but went searchng for a wandering missing child

Reading what Amy T says again and because MM shoes were still there Amy T thought she had been taken.  I.e. not climbed out the window.  But it sounds like the receptionist just thought she had wandered off, but he hadn't actually checked the situation as Amy T had.  Amy Tierney is a hero in my books.  At least she got the missing child procedure in action.

[Robittybob1]

How do you know how he asked?

He admits it in his (rogatory) statement. 

[Alfie]

He admits it in his (rogatory) statement.

Oh ok. 

[ShiningInLuz]

The first two GNR arrive at 10:50 so the 10:52 call can't be a request for the GNR to attend.

How was it established the GNR arrived at 10.50?  I must have missed that bit.

[Robittybob1]

How was it established the GNR arrived at 10.50?  I must have missed that bit.

It is in Crossland's statement, and partially backed by John Hill's statement. (They would know better than anyone else being there waiting for them to arrive.)

[Robittybob1]

Oh ok.

You don't sound convinced. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm

Reply 'Yeah, sort of pretty much, you know, straight away, erm, I think it was only, but then it was a kind of, it was surreal when you got there, I said, you've got to phone the Police, you know, a child's been taken, and they went, oh no, she's probably just sort of woken up and he thought she's probably sort of wandered off or something like that and you thought, yeah, maybe you're right, maybe you're right, erm, can you please, it was sort of, it was kind of, it was sort a weird kind of lack of urgency, you know, he'd ring, but you had to sort and stand there and say, ring now, ring now, so I don't know if they rang at that point, but certainly, erm, you know, I certainly asked them to,

It was the receptionist convincing Matt that MM had just wandered off, not Matt convincing the receptionist that MM had been abducted.  Do you see that now?

[Alfie]

You don't sound convinced. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/MATTHEW-OLDFIELD-ROGATORY.htm It was the receptionist convincing Matt that MM had just wandered off, not Matt convincing the receptionist that MM had been abducted.  Do you see that now?

What should he have done then?  Grabbed the receptionist by the throat and forced him to call the police?  How would you have convinced him to make the call?

[Brietta]

What should he have done then?  Grabbed the receptionist by the throat and forced him to call the police?  How would you have convinced him to make the call?

Even if the OC receptionist had called immediately ... what difference would it have made to police activities when they did finally arrive at the scene?


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I remember him telling me that he had spoken to the local police but they were not taking the situation seriously.
I remember Gerry saying that they did not treat the matter with urgency and only stated that Madeleine must have left on her own and that she would be back later. ...
...
Gerry is normally very calm and serene, he has a logical perception of things, but he was hysterical he was shouting.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PATRICIA_CAMERON.htm

[Robittybob1]

What should he have done then?  Grabbed the receptionist by the throat and forced him to call the police?  How would you have convinced him to make the call?

I think the first thing would be ask to speak to the MW Manager since they were MW clients.

[Robittybob1]

Even if the OC receptionist had called immediately ... what difference would it have made to police activities when they did finally arrive at the scene?


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I remember him telling me that he had spoken to the local police but they were not taking the situation seriously.
I remember Gerry saying that they did not treat the matter with urgency and only stated that Madeleine must have left on her own and that she would be back later. ...
...
Gerry is normally very calm and serene, he has a logical perception of things, but he was hysterical he was shouting.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PATRICIA_CAMERON.htm

We can see they rang the police on Gerry's insistence but not for Matt.