Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?

[John]

How did you get details of the burglary at Odiaxere?  Like how did you know that it was a false alarm?

Research.

If I recall it was a false flag, an alarm set off in business premises which if anything was merely a distraction for the one and only local patrol out that night.

[Robittybob1]

Research.

If I recall it was a false flag, an alarm set off in business premises which if anything was merely a distraction for the one and only local patrol out that night.

So someone like SIL could go and confirm this for us easy enough.

[Robittybob1]

Very much so but I wasn't thinking of the home grown variety.  Not many people know this but there are Russian mafia members in every prison down the Spanish Costas, you could map a route right down to Marbella and beyond into the Algarve.  I have seen some of them in Alicante and in Madrid.  Unlike the Romanian Mafia whose favourite pastime is prostitution, the Russians go in for extortion and kidnap.

The word "Interpol" springs to mind.  There was that claim made by Richard D Hall that Interpol had attended the OC before the GNR had got there, so I suppose we take that to mean they had ruled out "Russian Mafia" or would Interpol just keep their findings absolutely secret?

But then who called Interpol?

[Robittybob1]

And since Interpol in Portugal was further away than the GNR base one would have to think they were in the area already but why?

[John]

And since Interpol in Portugal was further away than the GNR base one would have to think they were in the area already but why?

As previously pointed out in another thread ages ago, Interpol do not investigate cases, they are merely an intermediary, paper pushers who act as liaison between different international police forces.  When police in one country require something of another police force in another country they contact Interpol or Europol.

[ferryman]

The solution to the mystery of what happened to Madeleine might very well be simple.

But I doubt it will be found in any material contained in this thread.

[mercury]

Very much so but I wasn't thinking of the home grown variety.  Not many people know this but there are Russian mafia members in every prison down the Spanish Costas, you could map a route right down to Marbella and beyond into the Algarve.  I have seen some of them in Alicante and in Madrid.  Unlike the Romanian Mafia whose favourite pastime is prostitution, the Russians go in for extortion and kidnap.

You would need to share why you think local mafia are involved in this case

and if they were why their name doesnt come up once in the files

[misty]

You would need to share why you think local mafia are involved in this case

and if they were why their name doesnt come up once in the files

There's a very big Russian name in the files if you look carefully enough. Or maybe it's just a coincidence & someone has the same name.

[sadie]

It never ceases to amaze that when crimes are eventually solved, so many things usually fall into place just like finishing a jigsaw puzzle.

A comment made on another thread got me wondering about events and if they are connected.  The alleged break in at premises in Odiáxere, the open window and shutter at 5a, a missing child, nothing else stolen, Amaral's dead dog and the perceived threat against him, the destroyed information posters, the burning of a Russian's car in Luz and a community in fear of speaking out.

Can anyone else see the links?



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Some of those listed 'facts' are interesting imo

1)  The false GNR callout.  Oxiadere, about 6 miles crow flies, but probably about 8 miles via road east of PdL.  In order to give time for an abductor to get away safely before police investigation? 
This points to a carefully detailed and planned abduction.

2)  The open shutter and window . 
(i) A set up to make out that Madeleine had climbed out thru the window ? ... or
(ii)  to take the attention away from the front door to which a key had to be obtained ?   Both give out false info protecting the abductor.


3)  Better to take nothing else because
(i) if the intent was to make it look as tho Maddeleine had walked out herself, she wouldn't have stolen anything?
(ii)  Dont touch anything nor take anything that could be traced back and used as evidence against you?.
(iii)  Mission completed.  In and out in a flash.  Dont hang around?

Madeleine was the target.


4)  Destroyed info posters.  Make sure if anyone did see the abduction, that they kept quiet?

5)  Burning of the Russians car
(i)  Innocent, but making him the fall guy ? ... or,
(ii) Malinka locally believed involved.  Easier to torch his car than go to the PJ, who everyone was in fear of, it seems


No I dont see any Mafia (per se) involved John, just a very thoroughly planned and executed abduction.  That's all


AIMHO

[Robittybob1]

As previously pointed out in another thread ages ago, Interpol do not investigate cases, they are merely an intermediary, paper pushers who act as liaison between different international police forces.  When police in one country require something of another police force in another country they contact Interpol or Europol.

I went on to YouTube and played a series of videos on Interpol and they were involved in tracking a person dealing with child pornography assisting the local police but they did send an agent.  I think the person who wrote the email to Richard D Hall had the information wrong, but probably not all of it. 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wSw4zN--7UA "Real Crime: The Hunt For Mr Swirl Part 1"

[Robittybob1]

There's a very big Russian name in the files if you look carefully enough. Or maybe it's just a coincidence & someone has the same name.

Let us have it?

[John]

You would need to share why you think local mafia are involved in this case

and if they were why their name doesnt come up once in the files

I want to see who can make the links to the elements I provided in my opening post.  I know Sadie has previously made soundings in this area but she may not have joined up all the dots.  One thing which stands out was the death of Amaral's dog and the link which he and Sofia made to the McCann case.  On the other thread it was suggested that he blamed the McCann's for the dogs death but his words have been misinterpreted. It wasn't the McCann's to blame per se but the case itself ie Madeleine's disappearance.


The truth of the lie - Goncalo Amaral - Chapter 7

On May 10th, the crisis unit's meeting goes on until 2'oclock in the morning.

I receive a phone call from Sofia, who insists on my going home: our Shitzu dog is dead. She found it that morning, lifeless on the ground, with a head injury. She did everything to make sure the girls did not see it, but she didn't have the courage to remove him. When I arrive, everyone is already in bed. I place the Shitzu in a plastic bag, not sure about where I am going to be able to bury him. The ground is hard here. it's not easy to dig a hole and I hardly have the time for it. I decide to drop his remains into a bin. The animal is small, but he seems to weigh more than usual. I use my car to take her. As I am getting rid of it, I realise just how easy it is to hide a body - and how difficult it is to bury....When I get back, I discuss it with Sofia: she is afraid. She asks me to abandon the investigation and to worry about our daughters rather than other people's. For her, the dog's death is a bad omen. I reply that she is unfair, that her fears are irrational. Justice must be done for Madeleine, as for all other children and adults. It's my duty as a police officer: to seek the truth so that justice may be done.

[Robittybob1]

I want to see who can make the links to the elements I provided in my opening post.  I know Sadie has previously made soundings in this area but she may not have joined up all the dots.  One thing which stands out was the death of Amaral's dog and the link which he and Sofia made to the McCann case.  On the other thread it was suggested that he blamed the McCann's for the dogs death but his words have been misinterpreted.

Did the dog have a name?  Did it have a Russian name?

[mercury]

Did the dog have a name?  Did it have a Russian name?

Pavlov

Lol

[Robittybob1]

Pavlov

Lol

Good one.  it actually was a serious question!