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Offline Angelo222

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #60 on: November 16, 2016, 08:43:08 PM »
But, if they took Madeleine , in any scenario, and had a ransom, this will have been paid by now, by the millions they got in donation sof millions in pledges from rich people and the Sun/NOTW papers, or if it wasnt money they wanted, the Mccanns will have agreed to give them what they wanted surely

Do you really thnk its possible the Mccanns got on the wrong side of anyone so badly that a ten year scenario has been playing out?

Or is someone else also involved?

I was going to search for sky movies online tonight but may stay here as it could be more intriguing....
stranger things have happened though

It is no secret that I prefer the woke and wandered theory but there is just as much reason to believe that something more sinister occurred.  There are several reasons why an abducted kid might never be returned.  Something could have happened to her after she was taken which prevented a hand back or she might have been taken to order in which case she was never going to be returned anyway.  What is certain however is that the furore which followed Maddie's disappearance killed the golden goose at least in the Algarve.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #61 on: November 16, 2016, 08:54:20 PM »
So claiming the girl in Leh was not maddie fallls into the uncertain category...same as everything you care to come up with

The Indian police never found any British girl, another media hike.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #62 on: November 16, 2016, 09:00:12 PM »
If Maddie had been abducted for a ransom the parents would have been told not to contact the police straight away.  That didn't happen as far as I am aware which tends to indicate there was no intention to return her.

Some food for thought. It was commented on earlier today that smugglers have been landing drugs consignments along the mostly unguarded Portuguese Atlantic coast for years. If they can bring kit in so easily what was to stop them taking cargo out again?
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Offline mercury

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #63 on: November 16, 2016, 09:06:49 PM »
It is no secret that I prefer the woke and wandered theory but there is just as much reason to believe that something more sinister occurred.  There are several reasons why an abducted kid might never be returned.  Something could have happened to her after she was taken which prevented a hand back or she might have been taken to order in which case she was never going to be returned anyway.  What is certain however is that the furore which followed Maddie's disappearance killed the golden goose at least in the Algarve.

It certainly isnt a slam dunk normal abduction case for sure
Too much nterference from too many quarters, and I mean TONNES of quarters

Offline Angelo222

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #64 on: November 16, 2016, 09:11:14 PM »
It never ceases to amaze that when crimes are eventually solved, so many things usually fall into place just like finishing a jigsaw puzzle.

A comment made on another thread got me wondering about events and if they are connected.  The alleged break in at premises in Odiáxere, the open window and shutter at 5a, a missing child, nothing else stolen, Amaral's dead dog and the perceived threat against him, the destroyed information posters, the burning of a Russian's car in Luz and a community in fear of speaking out.

Can anyone else see the links?



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I have to admit I can see links between the events, links which point to an organised crime gang.  The false alarm many miles away from Praia da Luz could very well have been created in order to take the GNR night crew away as far as possible from the scene of a robbery.  Thinking outside the box for a moment, it is possible that what started out as a simple robbery ended up as a child abduction.  Could it be that Madeleine awoke to find the window open and recognised the intruder?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #65 on: November 16, 2016, 09:57:38 PM »
It certainly isnt a slam dunk normal abduction case for sure
Too much nterference from too many quarters, and I mean TONNES of quarters
Please expand your concept of "Tonnes of quarters" please?
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Offline mercury

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #66 on: November 16, 2016, 10:03:30 PM »
Please expand your concept of "Tonnes of quarters" please?
Foreign office appointing contact
Said contact becoming their personal pr agent
3 English police forces and elements attached to them
The secret services
Media
Prime ministers
rich benefactors interfering with investigation
7 pi agencies
List is endless
Quite unprecedented for sure

Offline Brietta

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #67 on: November 16, 2016, 10:15:43 PM »
I have to admit I can see links between the events, links which point to an organised crime gang.  The false alarm many miles away from Praia da Luz could very well have been created in order to take the GNR night crew away as far as possible from the scene of a robbery.  Thinking outside the box for a moment, it is possible that what started out as a simple robbery ended up as a child abduction.  Could it be that Madeleine awoke to find the window open and recognised the intruder?

I don't think they would have gone to all the bother of distracting the cops for a tourist robbery that might at best have secured a camera, passport or loose change.

A high value item about which a furore was going to be raised immediately it was discovered missing would have necessitated a quick, clean, unobstructed getaway ... would certainly have been worth the precaution of making sure the GNR were otherwise engaged while it was going on and while the culprits were getting clear.

I think Madeleine was the target.
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"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline mercury

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #68 on: November 16, 2016, 10:35:20 PM »
@)(++(* DNA wouldn't be better than some woman's recollection months after the event?  Oh you are a card Angelo.
Just for your perusal alf lol

https://www.sott.net/article/268449-Empathic-people-are-natural-targets-for-sociopaths-protect-yourself

Offline misty

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #69 on: November 16, 2016, 10:41:44 PM »
Maybe Sergey set fire to his own car, one of Amaral's neighbours was fed up of a Shih Tzu which barked all day whilst its owners were at work & the false alarm in Odiaxere really was just one of those things.

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Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #70 on: November 16, 2016, 11:36:28 PM »
Just for your perusal alf lol

https://www.sott.net/article/268449-Empathic-people-are-natural-targets-for-sociopaths-protect-yourself
Thanks.  I've perused the link but not quite sure what point you're trying to make?  Am I supposed to be insulted in some way?  If so, apologies but I don't get it.

Offline mercury

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #71 on: November 16, 2016, 11:47:43 PM »
Thanks.  I've perused the link but not quite sure what point you're trying to make?  Am I supposed to be insulted in some way?  If so, apologies but I don't get it.
The mccanns whole campaign was targetted at gullible people..and of course the praying candle lightng catholics..same most
Of course not the heartless unempathic people like the sceptics who are all evil and deluded
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #72 on: November 16, 2016, 11:53:45 PM »
Maybe Sergey set fire to his own car, one of Amaral's neighbours was fed up of a Shih Tzu which barked all day whilst its owners were at work & the false alarm in Odiaxere really was just one of those things.

Set fire to his own car and scrawl the word talk on the path, hardly.  Odiaxere was a ruse coincidentally?

Amaral's wife was so concerned about the killing of their dog that she pleaded with him to abandon the investigation.  More coincidences?
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Offline misty

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #73 on: November 17, 2016, 12:13:16 AM »
Set fire to his own car and scrawl the word talk on the path, hardly.  Odiaxere was a ruse coincidentally?

Amaral's wife was so concerned about the killing of their dog that she pleaded with him to abandon the investigation.  More coincidences?
You'd be amazed at the lengths some people will go to to make an insurance claim - especially if their income has been adversely affected. Just a theory, though.
Amaral must have been threatened many times during his time in the drug squad. The McCann case wasn't the only one he was working on at the time.
The burglary - how did the caller know the McCanns were going to call phone 112 20 minutes later? What if their call had been made at 2210 hrs? How did the caller know there was only one GNR patrol that night?
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Offline sadie

Re: Coincidences and links? Is the truth staring us all in the face?
« Reply #74 on: November 17, 2016, 01:12:47 AM »

Of course not the heartless unempathic people like the sceptics who are all evil and deluded

Well said mercury   8((()*/ ... but not all of them ... surely?