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Offline Benice

Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #375 on: December 02, 2016, 01:26:07 PM »
It doesn't matter if other risks are riskier (whatever risks you are referring to) because they're not the subject of the discussion. The subject of the discussion is the apparent lack of knowledge of the dangers involved in leaving small children home alone. We all know there are dangers and we all know what they are, why didn't they?

Because based on their knowledge of their own children's sleeping habits and their belief that PdL was a child friendly, safe environment, and knowing they were only 60 seconds away from then -  they trusted that all would be well.    Something which IIRC the AG said they were entitled to do.

''Hindsight is a wonderful thing'' and   ''It is easy to be wise after the event'' are both common sayings.  That's because  humans make mistakes all the time on a regular basis.     Why the McCanns have been excluded from the rest of the human race by some -  when it comes to getting things wrong - is totally inexplicable IMO.

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Offline G-Unit

Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #376 on: December 02, 2016, 01:31:54 PM »
I remember looking at this photo previously and came to the conclusion that it was digitally enhanced.  I have toned down the image shown attached which reveals white light directed at 5a so you are probably correct.

It never looked right to me because other photos and videos have shown just how dark that street was, No way did the street light have that effect.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #377 on: December 02, 2016, 01:48:01 PM »
Because based on their knowledge of their own children's sleeping habits and their belief that PdL was a child friendly, safe environment, and knowing they were only 60 seconds away from then -  they trusted that all would be well.    Something which IIRC the AG said they were entitled to do.

''Hindsight is a wonderful thing'' and   ''It is easy to be wise after the event'' are both common sayings.  That's because  humans make mistakes all the time on a regular basis.     Why the McCanns have been excluded from the rest of the human race by some -  when it comes to getting things wrong - is totally inexplicable IMO.

Gerry's knowledge of his daughter's sleeping habits led him to believe that she may have left her bed as early as 9.05 pm, so that's no defence, it's a good reason NOT to leave her home alone.

PdL has never been shown as anything but a child-friendly safe environment. The dangers I'm talking about were linked to kids being home alone; crying, getting out of bed, falling etc. Nothing to do with the location.

We all make mistakes but few parents make such basic mistakes, especially those who are described as careful, loving and protective by family and friends.

None of it has anything to do with hindsight, foresight is what was lacking.

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Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #378 on: December 02, 2016, 01:50:22 PM »
Because based on their knowledge of their own children's sleeping habits and their belief that PdL was a child friendly, safe environment, and knowing they were only 60 seconds away from then -  they trusted that all would be well.    Something which IIRC the AG said they were entitled to do.

''Hindsight is a wonderful thing'' and   ''It is easy to be wise after the event'' are both common sayings.  That's because  humans make mistakes all the time on a regular basis.     Why the McCanns have been excluded from the rest of the human race by some -  when it comes to getting things wrong - is totally inexplicable IMO.

So why if there was nothing to worry about, did they lock the apartment during the day ? 8)-)))

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #379 on: December 02, 2016, 01:53:46 PM »
Because based on their knowledge of their own children's sleeping habits and their belief that PdL was a child friendly, safe environment, and knowing they were only 60 seconds away from then -  they trusted that all would be well.    Something which IIRC the AG said they were entitled to do.

''Hindsight is a wonderful thing'' and   ''It is easy to be wise after the event'' are both common sayings.  That's because  humans make mistakes all the time on a regular basis.     Why the McCanns have been excluded from the rest of the human race by some -  when it comes to getting things wrong - is totally inexplicable IMO.
A few months back, I was trying to assist a family member in learning a new skill.  Very early on things went wrong and there was a minor accident.  No one got hurt but some economic damage was inflicted.

The young-ish family member gets the bulk of the blame for this damage.  However, given I was the instructor and supervisor, I have to hold my hand up and say quite simply that I got things wrong, and moreover it is correct to blame me for getting these things wrong.  And the passage of ten years will not make my contribution to this incident any less wrong.

The McCanns cannot keep Madeleine's disappearance high in the public profile and simultaneously expect the issue of their childcare arrangements to vanish.
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Offline carlymichelle

Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #380 on: December 02, 2016, 01:57:57 PM »
So why if there was nothing to worry about, did they lock the apartment during the day ? 8)-)))

dont forget according to gerry nothing   of  value was taken

stephen25000

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Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #381 on: December 02, 2016, 02:17:25 PM »
dont forget according to gerry nothing   of  value was taken

Indeed Carlymichelle.

So why lock the apartment during the day, but not at night ?

So what does that suggest?

Alfie

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Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #382 on: December 02, 2016, 03:03:51 PM »
Please provide a cite.
FFS.  Are you for real?  G-Unit has already referred to their behaviour as abnormal and uncaring, on this very thread I believe.  Are you seriously suggesting that the sceptics on this forum believe the McCanns to be normal caring parents - do you for example? 
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Alfie

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Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #383 on: December 02, 2016, 03:07:18 PM »
It doesn't matter if other risks are riskier (whatever risks you are referring to) because they're not the subject of the discussion. The subject of the discussion is the apparent lack of knowledge of the dangers involved in leaving small children home alone. We all know there are dangers and we all know what they are, why didn't they?
Because they knew their kids, knew the younger two were in cots, knew that all three were asleep, knew that the dangers in the apartment were minimal, knew that they would be checked on regularly. 

Alfie

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Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #384 on: December 02, 2016, 03:14:20 PM »
Gerry's knowledge of his daughter's sleeping habits led him to believe that she may have left her bed as early as 9.05 pm, so that's no defence, it's a good reason NOT to leave her home alone.

PdL has never been shown as anything but a child-friendly safe environment. The dangers I'm talking about were linked to kids being home alone; crying, getting out of bed, falling etc. Nothing to do with the location.

We all make mistakes but few parents make such basic mistakes, especially those who are described as careful, loving and protective by family and friends.

None of it has anything to do with hindsight, foresight is what was lacking.
Can you explain why you are a better judge of the McCanns' parenting skills and capacity for love and caring for their kids than their family and friends?  Do you think it is right and proper to judge them solely on their actions whilst on holiday (despite the fact you weren't even there to witness their behaviour and actions) and do you think it is right and proper to constantly condemn them as abnormal, uncaring parents ad nauseam?   

Offline jassi

Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #385 on: December 02, 2016, 03:15:26 PM »
Because they knew their kids, knew the younger two were in cots, knew that all three were asleep, knew that the dangers in the apartment were minimal, knew that they would be checked on regularly.

Sadly for Madeleine, they got it horribly wrong.
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Alfie

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Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #386 on: December 02, 2016, 04:59:38 PM »
Sadly for Madeleine, they got it horribly wrong.
Yes, agreed.

Offline Lace

Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #387 on: December 02, 2016, 05:06:53 PM »
dont forget according to gerry nothing   of  value was taken

What question was Gerry asked?   Was it 'were any of your valuables taken'  by any chance?

Why people need to quote this as if Gerry didn't find Madeleine of any worth I don't know,  quite nasty I think.


Offline Eleanor

Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #388 on: December 02, 2016, 05:16:24 PM »
What question was Gerry asked?   Was it 'were any of your valuables taken'  by any chance?

Why people need to quote this as if Gerry didn't find Madeleine of any worth I don't know,  quite nasty I think.

Horribly nasty.  Twisted words.  But then that's what it's all about.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?
« Reply #389 on: December 02, 2016, 05:25:16 PM »
What question was Gerry asked?   Was it 'were any of your valuables taken'  by any chance?

Why people need to quote this as if Gerry didn't find Madeleine of any worth I don't know,  quite nasty I think.

So what would your reply be in the same situation?
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