They were just 50m away, just like dining in ones back garden?

[Robittybob1]

So what do you think Madeleine was worth since you did ask?

I have just been watching the news on TV and there were stories of kids dying by the thousands in Nigeria from the effects of Boko Haram and in Syria with the retaking of Aleppo, and I've done nothing to help them, yet I have endured 7 months of hard slog trying to understand what happened to Madeleine McCann.  I must admit I have my doubts that I'm being fair when I think about it. 

[slartibartfast]

What Slarti wants people to believe is that there was a suggestion the McCanns didn't consider Madeleine 'valuable'.

I don't want anyone to believe anything, I have just provided the source of the nothing of value "quote". Make of it what you will.

There seems to be a culture of attack the sceptics at the moment, read the posts not what you think people are thinking.

[Lace]

So what would your reply be in the same situation?

Knowing that Madeleine was missing and that the officer meant,  valuables such as watches,  phones,  camera's etc. I would have said 'no'   I wouldn't class Madeleine as being in the same category as watches etc.   she would be much too precious.

[G-Unit]

I have just been watching the news on TV and there were stories of kids dying by the thousands in Nigeria from the effects of Boko Haram and in Syria with the retaking of Aleppo, and I've done nothing to help them, yet I have endured 7 months of hard slog trying to understand what happened to Madeleine McCann.  I must admit I have my doubts that I'm being fair when I think about it.

In one way Madeleine can be seen as just another child who was unlucky. But we know her by name, we have pictures and videos of her. That makes it more real and personal than the fate of thousands of anonymous kids. Man's inhumanity to man takes many forms.

[Eleanor]

In one way Madeleine can be seen as just another child who was unlucky. But we know her by name, we have pictures and videos of her. That makes it more real and personal than the fate of thousands of anonymous kids. Man's inhumanity to man takes many forms.

It certainly does.

[Robittybob1]

It certainly does.

What if we were more positive "Man's humanity to man takes many forms".

[xtina]

I must admit I am one parent who wouldn't have left my children alone.   Having said that the McCann's have acknowledged what they did and are carrying the weight of that guilt every day.

The reason I believe that people like to bring this up a lot is that they can't find anything else to beat the McCann's with.    They know the McCann's wish they hadn't done it,  and it is their way of getting at them.

The people who bring it up constantly are probably unable to explain how the McCann's are meant to have cleared up and hidden Madeleine so quickly and professionally so that no one could find her, and did it all in such a remarkably short time.

Some who cannot explain how the McCann's could have done this have even come up with the ludicrous idea that Madeleine must have died the Sunday before!!

 

Having said that the McCann's have acknowledged what they did and are carrying the weight of that guilt every day.



yes indeed no doubt about that................

but as yet ...we don't know what that guilt is do we ............

depending on what version you believe......

[Robittybob1]

Having said that the McCann's have acknowledged what they did and are carrying the weight of that guilt every day.



yes indeed no doubt about that................

but as yet ...we don't know what that guilt is do we ............

depending on what version you believe......

Keep jabbing.

[G-Unit]

Keep jabbing.

There's a constant barrage of belief being posted as if it were fact on this forum. I don't see it as 'jabbing' to remind people that the crime hasn't been identified and neither has the perpetrator (s).

Those who are convinced that certain people are innocent may be wrong. Those who are convinced that Madeleine was abducted by a stranger may be wrong.

[Alfie]

No wriggling Alfie.

You posted " is Kate McCann lying in your opinion when she writes: "Speaking for myself, I can say, hand on heart, that it never once crossed my mind that this might not be a safe option.  If I'd had any doubts whatsoever, I would simply never have entertained it".

The answer must be yes because  her best friend said in her statement :

" 'She did, she brought it up and that she, I mean, this is awful in retrospect as well, she asked what my opinion was on, erm, tut, on whether they were okay leaving the, the doors unlocked, because she was saying 'Is it better that if Madeleine wakes up she can get out and find us or', erm, 'or locking it and, you know, finding that we're not there and the door's locked if she woke up', because Madeleine had woken up, what I thought was the night before. Erm, tut, and it was in that context really, just asking, you know, what I thought. So it was obviously something that was on her mind a bit, huh'."

Don't you agree?

No I don't agree - her friend reports on something she supposedly said on the 3rd of May, after days of obviously not having any concerns about the safety of the children when they left them.  Clearly she raised the issue of whether or not to lock the patio door not because she was afraid of someone (a burglar or abductor)getting in, but more concerned about Madeleine if she awoke again (as she had done the night before) and wanted to try and get out to come to them.  So - no lies from Kate as you have (libellously) claimed. 

[Alice Purjorick]

I've scanned this article and it looks like a very pertinent (if rather log) read indeed:
http://www.collabra.org/articles/10.1525/collabra.58/

"We hypothesize that a similar process may be at work when people imagine the harm likely to befall unsupervised children. That is, people may overestimate the danger to unsupervised children in order to justify their moral condemnation of the parents who allow the children to be alone. Thus, exaggerated fears of harm and increasing moral prohibitions form a sort of self-reinforcing feedback loop. We will ultimately suggest that much of the recent hysteria concerning danger to unsupervised children is the product of this feedback loop, in which inflated estimates of risk lead to a new moral norm against leaving children alone, and then the need to justify moral condemnation of parents who violate this norm leads in turn to even more inflated estimates of risk, generating even stronger moral condemnation of parents who violate the norm, and so on".

Yeah nice paper !. Kris Kristofferson covered the subject in song in 1972. He was a bit less long winded whilst simultaneously cutting off the route, some might wish to take, to the moral high ground.
" 'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Who they can feel better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty decent folks can frown on
If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me"

I am sure if we are honest with ourselves we can all identify with this....

[Alfie]

I don't want anyone to believe anything, I have just provided the source of the nothing of value "quote". Make of it what you will.

There seems to be a culture of attack the sceptics at the moment, read the posts not what you think people are thinking.

But as the source of this claim was not Gerry himself, it was a meaningless observation.

[Alice Purjorick]

But as the source of this claim was not Gerry himself, it was a meaningless observation.

If that is truly the principle to which you subscribe rest assured we shall remind you of it as appropriate.

[Mr Gray]

There's a constant barrage of belief being posted as if it were fact on this forum. I don't see it as 'jabbing' to remind people that the crime hasn't been identified and neither has the perpetrator (s).

Those who are convinced that certain people are innocent may be wrong. Those who are convinced that Madeleine was abducted by a stranger may be wrong.

Based on the evidence I think it is true to say that abduction by a stranger is by far the most likely

[jassi]

I think there is a strong possibility that we may never know what happened to Madeleine.