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Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #435 on: December 12, 2016, 06:52:02 PM »
Who does Robert Murat strongly resemble Rob ?
It was the words interpreter and translator that were similar.  I don't know who Murat was similar to but he had a cousin Angus Symington, who was very similar.  http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.nz/2008/11/madeleine-mccann-symington-family.html
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Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #436 on: December 12, 2016, 07:33:22 PM »

I find it so often difficult to read.  Beyond insults and goading, I don't have the time or the patience to work out what any of you are trying to say.  So the content tends to pass me by.

Just keep it relatively pleasant.  And then I won't have a problem.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #437 on: December 12, 2016, 07:43:23 PM »
Where does it say that?
It would be covered in the section Davel quoted  the NRPSI Code of Professional Conduct
this is for translators in general....for court purposes see....http://www.nrpsi.org.uk/

As a result, the 1993 Runciman Royal Commission on Criminal Justice recommended that a national register of qualified interpreters should be established with the aim of ‘using only interpreters with proven competence and skills, who are governed by a nationally recognised code of conduct’. NRPSI was established in 1994.

Every interpreter on our Register has met the standards that we set for education, training and practice in public service. All Registrants are subject to the NRPSI Code of Professional Conduct and we investigate allegations of professional misconduct.



I haven't read the NRPSI Code of Professional Conduct but I have worked in jobs where there were issues with codes of conduct and declarations of conflict of interest.  It would be very important that interpreters and translators had no conflicts of interest at the level of taking evidence.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #438 on: December 12, 2016, 07:53:54 PM »
http://www.nrpsi.org.uk/for-clients-of-interpreters/code-of-professional-conduct.html

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3.10   Practitioners shall disclose any potential conflict of interest or other factor which may make it inappropriate for them to accept work in a particular case.

So for that reason (if the law in Portugal as equivalent) Silvia Batista should never have been used as an interpreter but Robert Murat would have qualified.
The fact that Silvia Batista dobbed in Robert Murat makes it doubly difficult to accept her actions as legitimate.
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Offline sadie

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #439 on: December 12, 2016, 07:55:05 PM »
It was the words interpreter and translator that were similar.  I don't know who Murat was similar to but he had a cousin Angus Symington, who was very similar.  http://aangirfan.blogspot.co.nz/2008/11/madeleine-mccann-symington-family.html
I dont agree that they are all that similar, but Murat has another cousin who is not so dissimilar.  I am not sure that they could be mistaken for each other tho.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #440 on: December 12, 2016, 07:58:01 PM »
I dont agree that they are all that similar, but Murat has another cousin who is not so dissimilar.  I am not sure that they could be mistaken for each other tho.
Was this "other cousin" in PDL that night?
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Offline Eleanor

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #441 on: December 12, 2016, 09:40:23 PM »
Was this "other cousin" in PDL that night?

Are ou mad, or what?  What other cousin?

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Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #442 on: December 12, 2016, 09:47:32 PM »
Are ou mad, or what?  What other cousin?

Angus Symington

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-510083/Madeleine-Witnesses-mistaken-suspect-Robert-Murat-British-double.html

Then again:

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But Mr Murat's hopes that the likeness could help him clear his name were dealt a blow last night when Mr Symington said he left Praia da Luz at 6pm on May 3 and was seven miles away at the time of the witness sightings, between 10pm and midnight.
« Last Edit: December 12, 2016, 09:50:35 PM by ferryman »

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #443 on: December 12, 2016, 10:32:51 PM »
this is for translators in general....for court purposes see....http://www.nrpsi.org.uk/

As a result, the 1993 Runciman Royal Commission on Criminal Justice recommended that a national register of qualified interpreters should be established with the aim of ‘using only interpreters with proven competence and skills, who are governed by a nationally recognised code of conduct’. NRPSI was established in 1994.

Every interpreter on our Register has met the standards that we set for education, training and practice in public service. All Registrants are subject to the NRPSI Code of Professional Conduct and we investigate allegations of professional misconduct.

So what in this case finished up in court? 
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #444 on: December 12, 2016, 10:37:31 PM »
Portuguese Translation Services
London based translation agency, Romo Translations, provides an accurate and confidential Portuguese translation service to business enterprises across 5 continents. From the translation of Portuguese legal documents(sworn translations) to translating Portuguese-English conferences, our mother-tongue interpreters capture the subtle nuances and emotions that make up effective communication.
http://www.romo-translations.com/portuguese-translators.php

Yeah! I know about that surprisingly. Show where Murat is or isn't on the list. That was the issue I raised with the gobby Lloyd Bridges TV show.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Robittybob1

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #445 on: December 12, 2016, 10:46:43 PM »
Yeah! I know about that surprisingly. Show where Murat is or isn't on the list. That was the issue I raised with the gobby Lloyd Bridges TV show.
Did he have to be?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #446 on: December 13, 2016, 11:28:49 AM »
Did he have to be?

Ask davel he brought Murat into the conversation.
I was just pointing out early doors that the translation of documents and those who do it is not regulated in the UK.
There is a list of approved court interpreters but that was not the issue under discussion at the time and is of course a bit different.
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline sadie

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #447 on: December 13, 2016, 12:53:00 PM »
Was this "other cousin" in PDL that night?

There are a number of cousins but you will have to research them yourself, I'm afraid.

I have no idea if he was in Pdl that night, but according to Blackwatch of The Sargeants Blog, [now defunct] he goes there... and he has had remarks made about him.  That is all I can say.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #448 on: December 13, 2016, 04:34:41 PM »
What has any of this got to do with why the McCanns did not publish officially translated files?

If they have their hands on El Premio Gordo are they supposed to keep the blockbuster hidden?

why should teh McCanns release their files....i don't see any point. SY have said they are not suspects that should be enough.

Offline jassi

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #449 on: December 13, 2016, 04:35:40 PM »
why should teh McCanns release their files....i don't see any point. SY have said they are not suspects that should be enough.


For whom ?
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I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
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Or maybe not -

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