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Offline jassi

Yes, and...?  How does the picture I posted not meet your brief?  Is it the lack of "clutching"?

Is it cuddlecat - it looks like a bit of pink blanket
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

I have no idea what point Alice is trying to make but my son had a "cuddledog" that he went to bed with every night for at least the first 8 years of his life, and took on every holiday.  We don't have a single photo of them together, so what does this prove?
I think it proves it is something that happened but it wasn't something you would want to photograph.
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Offline Robittybob1

Is it cuddlecat - it looks like a bit of pink blanket
Part of cuddle cat's collar is visible (gold coloured patch near MM's left eye).
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Offline Robittybob1

If someone had felt ill they could have asked Amaral for a diagnosis...
He would blame the British secret service for it regardless.
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Offline pathfinder73

He blames the parents for hiding the body.  Does he say anything about who staged the abduction scene?  Does he go along with Amaral and say the friends were somehow involved too?
OK Smithman was seen but was it Madeleine?  Who was he?   Don't you think she could have been alive and hence hidden inside a house?

They want to find Madeleine first then the rest would follow. What abduction scene? An open window and raised shutters that the McCanns said they saw or that tidy bed? Or was it a bedroom door that kept moving between checks?
« Last Edit: November 26, 2016, 08:18:50 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

They want to find Madeleine first then the rest would follow. What abduction scene? An open window and raised shutters that the McCanns said they saw or that tidy bed? Or was it a bedroom door that kept moving between checks?
Yes the open window and raised shutters that Amy T confirmed. If it was like Wyatt states these would not be necessary, or were they done to confuse.
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Offline pathfinder73

Yes the open window and raised shutters that Amy T confirmed. If it was like Wyatt states these would not be necessary, or were they done to confuse.

Please explain to me how Amy could see it but not David/Fiona Payne or Dianne Webster who were in apartment 5A before her? Did any of the tapas 7 see an open window and raised shutters? 8 went straight to that apartment from the table when the alarm was raised. Amy's statement doesn't add up.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2016, 08:57:25 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Yes the open window and raised shutters that Amy T confirmed. If it was like Wyatt states these would not be necessary, or were they done to confuse.

After 10 pm.

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Is it cuddlecat - it looks like a bit of pink blanket
Then you'd better take it up with Pamalam who has captioned it "cuddlecat".

Offline Robittybob1

Please explain to me how Amy could see it but not David/Fiona Payne or Dianne Webster who were in apartment 5A before her? Did any of the tapas 7 see an open window and raised shutters? 8 went straight to that apartment from the table when the alarm was raised. Amy's statement doesn't add up.
Amy's statement is written so it is a fact but she could have been on the scene rather early.  Even G-unit questioned why the woman in the creche said the missing child was called "Maddie" when the McCanns always called her Madeleine.  John doesn't like it when I say there was an earlier incident, but the thought keeps coming that maybe the first incident involved "Maddie" but the creche workers guessed it was Madeleine McCann (as they admit) and so Amy actually went to the "wrong place" in fact but at a fortuitous time to see the 5A apartment as it was when Kate found it.
So Amy could have got there before the others had interfered with the shutters and the window.  It seems unbelievable but I don't have a better explanation.
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Offline Robittybob1

Please explain to me how Amy could see it but not David/Fiona Payne or Dianne Webster who were in apartment 5A before her? Did any of the tapas 7 see an open window and raised shutters? 8 went straight to that apartment from the table when the alarm was raised. Amy's statement doesn't add up.
As I am saying if Wyatt is right someone has to explain who opened the window and the shutters that Kate and Amy write about.  If that scene was important to Kate (if she did it) she would have made everyone aware they were like that. 
Who else could have set the scene?
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Offline pathfinder73

Amy's statement is written so it is a fact but she could have been on the scene rather early.  Even G-unit questioned why the woman in the creche said the missing child was called "Maddie" when the McCanns always called her Madeleine.  John doesn't like it when I say there was an earlier incident, but the thought keeps coming that maybe the first incident involved "Maddie" but the creche workers guessed it was Madeleine McCann (as they admit) and so Amy actually went to the "wrong place" in fact but at a fortuitous time to see the 5A apartment as it was when Kate found it.
So Amy could have got there before the others had interfered with the shutters and the window.  It seems unbelievable but I don't have a better explanation.

Was Amy the abductor? Maddy was called that by family and friends long before she went to Luz. Many examples. Gerry had Maddie written on his friends reunited page. They were shouting and searching for Maddy. Amy's statement doesn't fit. The tapas 9 were on the scene first not Amy.

"That on 3rd May at about 22.05 she was working at the Mini Club, at the "dinner time period" together with colleagues Charlotte and Amy, when a female individual arrived, whose name she does not know, just that she was the mother of a child there (belonging to Toddlers 2), being a guest who was staying at the resort and who left at the end of the week, who told her that a girl called "Maddie" has disappeared, and that the girl's parents needed help in looking for her."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JACQUELINE_WILLIAMS.htm
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Was Amy the abductor? Maddy was called that by family and friends long before she went to Luz. Many examples. Gerry had Maddie written on his friends reunited page. They were shouting and searching for Maddy. Amy's statement doesn't fit. The tapas 9 were on the scene first not Amy.

"That on 3rd May at about 22.05 she was working at the Mini Club, at the "dinner time period" together with colleagues Charlotte and Amy, when a female individual arrived, whose name she does not know, just that she was the mother of a child there (belonging to Toddlers 2), being a guest who was staying at the resort and who left at the end of the week, who told her that a girl called "Maddie" has disappeared, and that the girl's parents needed help in looking for her."

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/JACQUELINE_WILLIAMS.htm

Note that happened at 22.05 a time that is stretching it if you think it was the result of Kate's alarm.  It could be I just can't tell, and if Gerry called Madeleine Maddie I don't know, I was just repeating what G-unit had said.
Charlotte sort of confirms what you say http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CHARLOTTE-PENNINGTON.htm:
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She adds that it was usual for Madeleine to be called "Maddy", as this is how she [Madeleine] presented herself to the witness;
- On the 3rd of May 2007, around 22H15, the witness was working during "dinner hour", together with her colleagues Jackie and Amy, when an unknown woman came to them indicating that she was a tourist lodged at the complex and asked them if they had heard about a disappearance of a child, whose name she referred to as "Maggie" or "Maddy";
- The witness also clarified that the crĂȘche in the complex also offers complementary services allowing parents to leave their children with baby sitters during dinner-time, between the hours of 19H15 and 23H00;
- She advised the aforementioned individual that no one had told them of the disappearance, who she believed by the name given, was Madeleine, also for the reason that Amy contacted via telephone her supervisor, Lyndsay, who informed her that Madeleine had indeed disappeared;

It would take a bit of time to walk to the creche at night so when did this other individual get to know about the disappearance of Maggie or Maddy?  So if she is telling them at 22.05 when did she get to know about it?

So Charlotte is saying Madeleine called herself "Maddie", But if the alarm is raised by the McCanns what would they call her?  What would they call out to her?
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Offline pathfinder73

Note that happened at 22.05 a time that is stretching it if you think it was the result of Kate's alarm.  It could be I just can't tell, and if Gerry called Madeleine Maddie I don't know, I was just repeating what G-unit had said.
Charlotte sort of confirms what you say http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/CHARLOTTE-PENNINGTON.htm:
It would take a bit of time to walk to the creche at night so when did this other individual get to know about the disappearance of Maggie or Maddy?  So if she is telling them at 22.05 when did she get to know about it?

So Charlotte is saying Madeleine called herself "Maddie", But if the alarm is raised by the McCanns what would they call her?  What would they call out to her?

The alarm being raised before 10 would explain it. I believe Matt is right in his around 9:50 (watch?) Kate left to check not 10. That's why the night creche knew about it early after a mother had gone there and informed them about Maddy. That would suggest Smithman was seen after the alarm. The men out searching were calling for Maddy not Kate. She was in the apartment.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2016, 11:02:12 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

So knowing when Kate did her check is the important item.
I would say plenty have tried to work that out before.
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