McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)

[sadie]

http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/nacvsa-killer-of-five-teenagers-passes-polygraph-89107132.html

One polygraph test passed by a suspect led to an additional 44 victims. Reliance on such tests often lead to investigators looking in the wrong direction.

Wow !

That certainly puts all ideas of taking these tests on to the back burner.

I would refuse one.

[Brietta]

Polygraphy has no grounding in science because polygraph techniques in use today were developed by interrogators, not scientists, says George Maschke, a former US Army intelligence officer and co-founder of AntiPolygraph.org.
"It's dangerous and irresponsible to place any reliance on polygraph outcomes. Polygraphy has not advanced in the way a scientific field would, and that is because it's not a science, it's an interrogation technique. It can be useful in getting confessions, but it is not reliable in and of itself.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-22467640


When Gary Leon Ridgway stood up in a Seattle court on Wednesday and admitted 48 counts of aggravated first degree murder he officially became America's most prolific serial killer.

It is not a very good advertisement for the polygraph, or lie detector test.

In 1987 the man suspected of being the Green River Killer took such a test and passed with flying colours.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3243015.stm

[pathfinder73]

Is a polygraph test admissible as evidence?

In virtually every jurisdiction, the answer is a resounding no.

https://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=31737

[misty]

Is a polygraph test admissible as evidence?

In virtually every jurisdiction, the answer is a resounding no.

https://www.hg.org/article.asp?id=31737

So why the fuss when KM reportedly refused to take one?

[pathfinder73]

What has a polygraph got to do with those videos? I didn't see Gerry and Kate wired up to one.

[Brietta]

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Right, I give up ... who is able to provide a definition of exactly what constitutes 'Embedded Confessions'?   &%+((£

Embedded = easy
Confessions = even easier
Embedded Confessions = ? surely someone must be able to explain?

[pathfinder73]

In his opinion he explains it here:

from 8:34

[Brietta]

In his opinion he explains it here:

from 8:34

With respect, that goes nowhere near explaining exactly what 'embedded confessions' purport to be.  If a new language is being contrived for us, I for one want access to the vocabulary for it.
My preference is for something that has a dictionary definition attached somewhere. You know that boring old stuff meanings ~ synonyms ~ antonyms and all that stuff.

[misty]

In his opinion he explains it here:

from 8:34

Hyatt has not used written statement analysis; he has. in fact, used a narrative of random comments which were not made in response to specific questions about the events of that night or the subsequent accusations made against the parents. Nothing has been analysed in context, especially as the words used were spoken 4 years down the line &  not a true reflection of initial thoughts & feelings.

[Lace]

Hyatt has not used written statement analysis; he has. in fact, used a narrative of random comments which were not made in response to specific questions about the events of that night or the subsequent accusations made against the parents. Nothing has been analysed in context, especially as the words used were spoken 4 years down the line &  not a true reflection of initial thoughts & feelings.

Exactly !!

[stephen25000]

http://www.hyattanalysis.com/

[Alfie]

So the lie detector result is used as evidence?

Fortunately not in this country.

[Lace]

http://www.hyattanalysis.com/

I just found this -

According to the words of the McCanns, Madeleine was not sold into sexual slavery but died in Portugal.  This is most evidenced in that Maddie was "beyond parental concern"; something that parents who know their child is deceased often indicate.  This is why so many thousands of people, particularly in the UK, felt strongly that the McCanns were not truthful.  Many comments reveal the line of thinking:  'the McCanns are more concerned about themselves than the child...', of which the analysis agrees. 

That is all a pack of lies,   just shows he knows nothing doesn't it.

Where have the McCann's ever said 'Madeleine was not sold into sexual slavery but died in Portugal?'

The McCann's have never said that.   They have always said their belief is that Madeleine is alive.

[stephen25000]

I just found this -

According to the words of the McCanns, Madeleine was not sold into sexual slavery but died in Portugal.  This is most evidenced in that Maddie was "beyond parental concern"; something that parents who know their child is deceased often indicate.  This is why so many thousands of people, particularly in the UK, felt strongly that the McCanns were not truthful.  Many comments reveal the line of thinking:  'the McCanns are more concerned about themselves than the child...', of which the analysis agrees.

That is all a pack of lies,   just shows he knows nothing doesn't it.

Where have the McCann's ever said 'Madeleine was not sold into sexual slavery but died in Portugal?'

The McCann's have never said that.   They have always said their belief is that Madeleine is alive.

That is his interpretation of the Mccanns non-intended subliminal communications.

As to the Mccanns being only concerned about themselves, yes I agree.

Right from the start.

[pathfinder73]

I just found this -

According to the words of the McCanns, Madeleine was not sold into sexual slavery but died in Portugal.  This is most evidenced in that Maddie was "beyond parental concern"; something that parents who know their child is deceased often indicate.  This is why so many thousands of people, particularly in the UK, felt strongly that the McCanns were not truthful.  Many comments reveal the line of thinking:  'the McCanns are more concerned about themselves than the child...', of which the analysis agrees.

That is all a pack of lies,   just shows he knows nothing doesn't it.

Where have the McCann's ever said 'Madeleine was not sold into sexual slavery but died in Portugal?'

The McCann's have never said that.   They have always said their belief is that Madeleine is alive.

If it was true why do you think they would say it?

Who were blamed within hours of her disappearance?

3 May 2007

One hour into the search by holiday makers of the hotel and surrounding areas, about 23.00 hrs, Mr McKenzie approached the McCann's apartment from the bushes at the rear of the apartment.

He was searching the gardens. He did not know it was the McCann's apartment.

He saw Mr Gerry McCann standing alone in the doorway at the rear of the apartment talking on his mobile telephone.

Mr McCann was looking our over the swimming pool and did not see Mr McKenzie.

Mr McCann was absolutely distraught telling the person receiving the call that he feared 'she (Madeleine McCann) had been taken by paedophiles'.

He does not know who the person receiving the calls was but presumes it to be a family member.

Mr McKenzie recognises Mr McCann from being in the same holiday complex at the same time..

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GRAHAM-MCKENZIE.htm