McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)

[misty]

Has anyone observed/participated in the Q&A session held by Hyatt & able to report back anything of interest to us?

[pathfinder73]

I realised the man knew nothing as soon as he went on about the McCann's 'finding fault'  with Madeleine when she was born,  because Kate said 'then she opened her mouth'   meaning probably that she screamed loudly.  They sounded pleased about it in my opinion,  especially when Gerry said she was a 'McCann'.   The way Hyatt said it,  he made it sound sinister as though they had it in for Madeleine from the day she was born.  God help anyone who says 'she/he has a strong pair of lungs'  to the parents of a new born baby.

His conclusion is the same as Goncalo Amaral.

Q – What are the points, that you believe, implicate the McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter?

A – The first thing is that they always defended the theory of the abduction. The mother said that the window of the room was open when she saw that the girl was not there. That is not correct, the window was closed and it is impossible for the girl to have left that way. We worked in the apartment and the window was closed. The parents have always argued that the girl was alive and they were the first to raise that Maddie could be dead.

Q – You talk about inconsistencies in the statements about the monitoring system. The book also indicates that the nine people who had dinner together drank an average of eight bottles of wine, four of red and four of white. Isn’t there the possibility that, between the disappearance and the alcohol, they were confused and that they did not remember the exact minutes in which they watched the children?

A – Okay, but then there is the window where we found Kate’s finger prints, the mother of the girl. She said that she had never touched that window, and the cleaning lady assured that she had cleaned it on the previous day. And above all she said that the window was open when it was closed, it doesn’t add up.

Q – Would it be possible that the mother or the father closed the window later, when returning to the room to search for the girl?

A – There are three people who say that they walked in front of the apartment and saw the window closed. They did not state that it was open? Which left? And there are other things. The mother says that she entered the room and the windows were open and the shutters were raised. No one else saw that. They simulated an abduction. They wanted us to say that someone entered the apartment with the intention of theft and when they saw the girl they killed her.

Gonçalo Amaral: Gerry McCann hid Madeleine’s corpse on the Beach El Mundo
SILVIA TAULÉS
06 September 2008

[sadie]

His conclusion is the same as Goncalo Amaral.

Q – What are the points, that you believe, implicate the McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter?

A – The first thing is that they always defended the theory of the abduction. The mother said that the window of the room was open when she saw that the girl was not there. That is not correct, the window was closed and it is impossible for the girl to have left that way. We worked in the apartment and the window was closed. The parents have always argued that the girl was alive and they were the first to raise that Maddie could be dead.

Q – You talk about inconsistencies in the statements about the monitoring system. The book also indicates that the nine people who had dinner together drank an average of eight bottles of wine, four of red and four of white. Isn’t there the possibility that, between the disappearance and the alcohol, they were confused and that they did not remember the exact minutes in which they watched the children?

A – Okay, but then there is the window where we found Kate’s finger prints, the mother of the girl. She said that she had never touched that window, and the cleaning lady assured that she had cleaned it on the previous day. And above all she said that the window was open when it was closed, it doesn’t add up.

Q – Would it be possible that the mother or the father closed the window later, when returning to the room to search for the girl?

A – There are three people who say that they walked in front of the apartment and saw the window closed. They did not state that it was open? Which left? And there are other things. The mother says that she entered the room and the windows were open and the shutters were raised. No one else saw that. They simulated an abduction. They wanted us to say that someone entered the apartment with the intention of theft and when they saw the girl they killed her.

Gonçalo Amaral: Gerry McCann hid Madeleine’s corpse on the Beach El Mundo
SILVIA TAULÉS
06 September 2008

Last Amaral answer is baloney.

Heriberto Janosch analysed the situation very well. 
In order to reach any of the front doors in block 5 one had to walk across the car park from its entrance to the pathway that ran along the front of the building.  This pathways entrance was at the centre of the block.    It was necessary to walk part of the path to reach a hallway with all the apartments except 5a coming off it.

So all the Tapas group using their front doors, which they all did except Kate and Gerry, had to walk diagonally across the car park to the end of the pathway at the centre of the building before being able to access their front door
 
With the scienfically accepted maximum angle of vision, as specified by Heri, whether walking across the car park to the centre of block 5 or walking back, the window to Madeleines bedroom was always beyond the accepted maximum angle of vision. 

No wonder nobody noticed an open window... it was beyond their vision !

Amaral made a massive booboo of it.

ETA:  And what is more, none of them said that they saw the window closed. 

[sadie]

Last Amaral answer is baloney.

Heriberto Janosch analysed the situation very well. 
In order to reach any of the front doors in block 5 one had to walk across the car park from its entrance to the pathway that ran along the front of the building.  This pathways entrance was at the centre of the block.    It was necessary to walk part of the path to reach a hallway with all the apartments except 5a coming off it.

So all the Tapas group using their front doors, which they all did except Kate and Gerry, had to walk diagonally across the car park to the end of the pathway at the centre of the building before being able to access their front door
 
With the scienfically accepted maximum angle of vision, as specified by Heri, whether walking across the car park to the centre of block 5 or walking back, the window to Madeleines bedroom was always beyond the accepted maximum angle of vision. 

No wonder nobody noticed an open window... it was beyond their vision !

Amaral made a massive booboo of it.

ETA:  And what is more, none of them said that they saw the window closed.

Now let's look at Amarals first answer.

His conclusion is the same as Goncalo Amaral.

Q – What are the points, that you believe, implicate the McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter?

A – The first thing is that they always defended the theory of the abduction. The mother said that the window of the room was open when she saw that the girl was not there. That is not correct, the window was closed and it is impossible for the girl to have left that way. We worked in the apartment and the window was closed. The parents have always argued that the girl was alive and they were the first to raise that Maddie could be dead.

This is the same booboo.  He got it wrong.

Pity that Amaral didn't have a Masters in Criminology same as Heriberto Janosch.  Maybe he would have got things right then?

So this answer by Amaral is a nonsense too

[pathfinder73]

Matt Oldfield, Jane Tanner and Russell O'Brien could see it from entering the car park - Matt's apartment was next to 5A. Nobody saw raised shutters. If Matt looked at his window he would have seen an open window next to it.

Heri's theory of an abductor lifting her from the outside is fantasy land.  The abductor is trapped in the corridor and easily seen by a person or vehicle entering that car park.

[sadie]

This is question two to Amaral, with his answer

Q – You talk about inconsistencies in the statements about the monitoring system. The book also indicates that the nine people who had dinner together drank an average of eight bottles of wine, four of red and four of white. Isn’t there the possibility that, between the disappearance and the alcohol, they were confused and that they did not remember the exact minutes in which they watched the children?

A – Okay, but then there is the window where we found Kate’s finger prints, the mother of the girl. She said that she had never touched that window, and the cleaning lady assured that she had cleaned it on the previous day. And above all she said that the window was open when it was closed, it doesn’t add up.

Any so called inconsistencies are well within the norm.   When different people recount their recollections, such is inevitable.  It would be very suspicious if they all had identical recollections

Now the bottles of wine.
My understanding is that they were all inclusive, meaning they got 8 bottlesan allocation of wine with their meal.  Wine waiter Ricardo Oliveira states that he served two bottles of white and two bottles of red  between 9 of them ... and that was a typical amount each evening.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/RICARDO-A-D-L-OLIVEIRA.htm

-snip-
He states that on that night, after having received the orders, he went into the bar. Immediately, he put two white wine and two red wine bottles, along with a bottle of water, on the table. He cannot be sure that he served more wine that night. The appetiser/starters were served by one of his colleagues. After 25 to 30 minutes, it was the witness who served the main dishes.   -snip-

and

-snip-
When they were all together, the group sat at the table, he took their orders, including the starters. As already mentioned, on this occasion, he would immediately take two white and two red bottles of wine and one bottle of water to the table. Their main courses would normally be ready 25 to 30 minutes after their order? a time they used to consume the starters. After starters, the group would normally spend about 15 minutes finishing the main course. Generally, during dinner, he would serve four bottles of wine (two white and two red), which the group completely consumed. On that day, he did not serve any more wine. It was also normal for certain members of the group to order dessert. After this, they would normally stay at the table until after 23H00 but would always leave before 00H00, the time when the bar closed. One or more of them, on another night, asked for an after-dinner drink. He remembers this clearly because they asked for Amareto and the bar did not stock it.   -snip-

Four bottles of wine, between 9 people, over a meal and two and a half hours, is very moderate.  On occasions some had a cocktail before the meal.   Even with a cocktail, none were going to be anything like drunk, when taken with a meal over such a period of time.



Why did Amaral say that they had drunk 8 bottles of wine that night?
.... when it was only 4 bottles ... which was their normal amount for a whole evening

Why?

Did he make another mistake?  .... or was he making it up?

[sadie]

Matt Oldfield, Jane Tanner and Russell O'Brien could see it from entering the car park - Matt's apartment was next to 5A. Nobody saw raised shutters. If Matt looked at his window he would have seen an open window next to it.

Heri's theory of an abductor lifting her from the outside is fantasy land.  The abductor is trapped in the corridor and easily seen by a person or vehicle entering that car park.

PFinder, you are wrong.

They would set their eyes on the light at the end of the pathway , which was in the middle of the building and as they walked in that direction would only needc to look at the lighted area.  People do not move their heads and have a good look around into darkness, they look at the bright spots in the direction they are moving.   
Madeleines window was right at the edge and beyond their periferal vision when taking the shortest route across the car park.  Full stop.


That is true in both directions.

[pathfinder73]

You are wrong. There's a street light there. That's the light Matt saw coming into the bedroom.

[sadie]

You are wrong. There's a street light there. That's the light Matt saw coming into the bedroom.

The street lights were heavily masked by the heads of the trees around the car aprk.

But they are irrelevant to the field of vision. 

The field of vision of someone walking to the centre of the building was too narrow to see Madeleines window.  Full stop. 

Especially in the dark one looks the way one is going ... and also towards light rather than darkness.   People do not look at the 'scenery' in the dark

[Robittybob1]

The street lights were heavily masked by the heads of the trees around the car aprk.

But they are irrelevant to the field of vision. 

The field of vision of someone walking to the centre of the building was too narrow to see Madeleines window.  Full stop. 

Especially in the dark one looks the way one is going ... and also towards light rather than darkness.   People do not look at the 'scenery' in the dark

So what do the police do at night, or security guards or sentry duty soldiers?  I think when you have the task of checking you do look in all directions.  Well you are supposed to.

[sadie]

So what do the police do at night, or security guards or sentry duty soldiers?  I think when you have the task of checking you do look in all directions.  Well you are supposed to.

They were not doing a police /security guard check outside FGS.   Just a check to make sure their kids were sleeping peacefully


Nigh Night.

[Robittybob1]

His conclusion is the same as Goncalo Amaral.

Q – What are the points, that you believe, implicate the McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter?

A – The first thing is that they always defended the theory of the abduction. The mother said that the window of the room was open when she saw that the girl was not there. That is not correct, the window was closed and it is impossible for the girl to have left that way. We worked in the apartment and the window was closed. The parents have always argued that the girl was alive and they were the first to raise that Maddie could be dead.

Q – You talk about inconsistencies in the statements about the monitoring system. The book also indicates that the nine people who had dinner together drank an average of eight bottles of wine, four of red and four of white. Isn’t there the possibility that, between the disappearance and the alcohol, they were confused and that they did not remember the exact minutes in which they watched the children?

A – Okay, but then there is the window where we found Kate’s finger prints, the mother of the girl. She said that she had never touched that window, and the cleaning lady assured that she had cleaned it on the previous day. And above all she said that the window was open when it was closed, it doesn’t add up.

Q – Would it be possible that the mother or the father closed the window later, when returning to the room to search for the girl?

A – There are three people who say that they walked in front of the apartment and saw the window closed. They did not state that it was open? Which left? And there are other things. The mother says that she entered the room and the windows were open and the shutters were raised. No one else saw that. They simulated an abduction. They wanted us to say that someone entered the apartment with the intention of theft and when they saw the girl they killed her.

Gonçalo Amaral: Gerry McCann hid Madeleine’s corpse on the Beach El Mundo
SILVIA TAULÉS
06 September 2008

All I can say is he hasn't read all the statements.  Amy Tierney states she saw the window open and the shutters up.

[Robittybob1]

They were not doing a police /security guard check outside FGS.   Just a check to make sure their kids were sleeping peacefully


Nigh Night.

I didn't say they were, but if you are tasked to check on the kids you should at least stop and do the task you were assigned.  Nite Sadie.

[Lace]

His conclusion is the same as Goncalo Amaral.

Q – What are the points, that you believe, implicate the McCanns in the disappearance of their daughter?

A – The first thing is that they always defended the theory of the abduction. The mother said that the window of the room was open when she saw that the girl was not there. That is not correct, the window was closed and it is impossible for the girl to have left that way. We worked in the apartment and the window was closed. The parents have always argued that the girl was alive and they were the first to raise that Maddie could be dead.

Q – You talk about inconsistencies in the statements about the monitoring system. The book also indicates that the nine people who had dinner together drank an average of eight bottles of wine, four of red and four of white. Isn’t there the possibility that, between the disappearance and the alcohol, they were confused and that they did not remember the exact minutes in which they watched the children?

A – Okay, but then there is the window where we found Kate’s finger prints, the mother of the girl. She said that she had never touched that window, and the cleaning lady assured that she had cleaned it on the previous day. And above all she said that the window was open when it was closed, it doesn’t add up.

Q – Would it be possible that the mother or the father closed the window later, when returning to the room to search for the girl?

A – There are three people who say that they walked in front of the apartment and saw the window closed. They did not state that it was open? Which left? And there are other things. The mother says that she entered the room and the windows were open and the shutters were raised. No one else saw that. They simulated an abduction. They wanted us to say that someone entered the apartment with the intention of theft and when they saw the girl they killed her.

Gonçalo Amaral: Gerry McCann hid Madeleine’s corpse on the Beach El Mundo
SILVIA TAULÉS
06 September 2008

Well surprise,  surprise.

[Robittybob1]

Well surprise,  surprise.

So what does that mean?