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Alfie

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Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #510 on: December 14, 2016, 10:35:12 AM »
I wasn't reading anything sinister into anything.

Gerry had paedo rings on his mind early doors.

We have had people trafficking rings thus far.  Perhaps I should include the Lagos slave market (museum) on my tours?  It is believed to be the oldest slave market in Europe.

Drug trafficking?  I have no doubts that if I really wanted to I could get my hands on some illegal drugs.  Just as I have no doubt any forum member could do the same.

The Algarve isn't 100% legit, of that I am certain.  But it isn't the frontier of the Wild West either.

Either the McCanns felt safe enough to leave the patio doors unlocked OR they were stupid beyond belief.

So is Luz and the Algarve safe?  Or were the McCanns dimwits?
Childish oversimplification in the extreme.  Could you try and set a better example and raise the tone of debate, seeing as how you are supposed to be a Moderator?

Offline Benice

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #511 on: December 14, 2016, 10:56:20 AM »
I wasn't reading anything sinister into anything.

Gerry had paedo rings on his mind early doors.

We have had people trafficking rings thus far.  Perhaps I should include the Lagos slave market (museum) on my tours?  It is believed to be the oldest slave market in Europe.

Drug trafficking?  I have no doubts that if I really wanted to I could get my hands on some illegal drugs.  Just as I have no doubt any forum member could do the same.

The Algarve isn't 100% legit, of that I am certain.  But it isn't the frontier of the Wild West either.

Either the McCanns felt safe enough to leave the patio doors unlocked OR they were stupid beyond belief.

So is Luz and the Algarve safe?  Or were the McCanns dimwits?

You seem to have wandered off course in your reply.

This is what you said:

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Is there any evidence of trafficking gangs on the Algarve in the files?  If there is, I've missed it!
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But trafficking gangs on the Algarve?  I think you need a smidgin of evidence if you want that idea to stand.
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That sounded to me as if you think the very idea of trafficking gangs in the Algarve is ridiculous. 

You asked for evidence to support it.

 I gave it to you.    The end.

imo
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #512 on: December 14, 2016, 10:58:21 AM »
You seem to have wandered off course in your reply.

This is what you said:

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Is there any evidence of trafficking gangs on the Algarve in the files?  If there is, I've missed it!
snipped.
But trafficking gangs on the Algarve?  I think you need a smidgin of evidence if you want that idea to stand.
unquote

That sounded to me as if you think the very idea of trafficking gangs in the Algarve is ridiculous. 

You asked for evidence to support it.

 I gave it to you.    The end.

imo

Where has any link been established with this case and child trafficking ?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #513 on: December 14, 2016, 12:55:59 PM »
Please get your facts right.  The McCanns are not now and never have refused my offer of help.

Have you ever tried to contact the McCanns to offer help
Simple answer yes or no

the logical conclusion of your failure to answer the question is that the answer would embarrass you
« Last Edit: December 14, 2016, 03:47:07 PM by davel »

Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #514 on: December 14, 2016, 01:50:30 PM »
Anyone who believes the McCanns deliberately put obstacles in the course of the investigation by promoting confusion as a good thing is going to struggle also with the concept that McCann solicited translated files are accurate and unbiased, so why demand them in the first place?  Also, are those calling for the McCanns to release into the public domain their version of the files expecting them to release ALL the inormation gathered by the original investigation, including those bits the PJ deemed unsuitable for release?

The logical conclusion is that the McCann's translation has no significant difference from the online ones.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #515 on: December 14, 2016, 03:26:38 PM »
The logical conclusion is that the McCann's translation has no significant difference from the online ones.
That's pretty much it.
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #516 on: December 14, 2016, 03:50:22 PM »
The logical conclusion is that the McCann's translation has no significant difference from the online ones.

the logical conclusion is there are significant diferences and the files online are not accurate.......if the accuracy had been established the mccans would not have comissioned new ones

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #517 on: December 14, 2016, 04:01:47 PM »
That's pretty much it.
you have denied that your offer to help teh mccanns was refused....I remember you trying to email them to offer help

Offline Angelo222

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #518 on: December 14, 2016, 04:02:22 PM »
the logical conclusion is there are significant diferences and the files online are not accurate.......if the accuracy had been established the mccans would not have comissioned new ones

I would say the files online are pretty accurate for the most part in as much as any foreign language translation is never 100% true.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #519 on: December 14, 2016, 04:07:36 PM »
the logical conclusion is there are significant diferences and the files online are not accurate.......if the accuracy had been established the mccans would not have comissioned new ones

Please explain how they could establish accuracy without getting professional ones done?
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline pathfinder73

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #520 on: December 14, 2016, 04:08:37 PM »
the logical conclusion is there are significant diferences and the files online are not accurate.......if the accuracy had been established the mccans would not have comissioned new ones

Antonio Cabrita, told the court that Rainbow wrote: "It was Madeleine's father who was the last one to see her alive.

"The family is a lead that should be followed.

The contradictions in Gerald McCann's statements might lead us to suspect a homicide."

Cabrita added: "This report has never been published before but is part of the investigation. On June 1st 2007 British police had the theory that Madeleine could be dead and the family could be involved.

"It was British police who said they must consider not only abduction but homicide as well."

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/mccanns-should-be-treated-as-suspects-brit-200689
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #521 on: December 14, 2016, 04:09:10 PM »
you have denied that your offer to help teh mccanns was refused....I remember you trying to email them to offer help
The offer was never refused.  Does that mean it has been accepted?

 &%+((£
What's up, old man?

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #522 on: December 14, 2016, 04:09:21 PM »
I would say the files online are pretty accurate for the most part in as much as any foreign language translation is never 100% true.

I would say they are reasonably accurate...but that is not enough....I don't speak portuguese but noticed that the translation of the archiving report asking the mcccanns to prove their innocence was wrong. How many more errors and how significant they are we do not know

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #523 on: December 14, 2016, 04:10:44 PM »
The offer was never refused.  Does that mean it has been accepted?

 &%+((£

the question you are avoiding now is did you email them....i believe you did...try and answer the question

Offline Mr Gray

Re: McCanns' Embedded Confessions - Statement Analysis ( Richard D Hall release)
« Reply #524 on: December 14, 2016, 04:11:47 PM »
Please explain how they could establish accuracy without getting professional ones done?


you start and see if there are any erroors in your sample....quite simple