Author Topic: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?  (Read 142738 times)

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Offline pathfinder73

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #15 on: November 27, 2016, 03:45:03 PM »
It may have been a deserted street, but actually it wasn't quite, was it?  Jez Wilkins was there and it was he  who had Gerry's attention and vice versa.  Jane Tanner walked by without drawing attention to herself.  The person in the forum I quoted above was alone, and even when greeted by name did not register the other person.  Will you people ever concede that this is neither impossible nor even out of the ordinary?!

It was not possible to escape both men's attention passing them within feet in her flip flops that she had trouble walking in. Boy oh boy -  If you tried to reconstruct it you would be the biggest laughing stock. That's why the police didin't believe it and kept questioning this sighting.

At some point she translated the statement of one of the ladies who belonged to the group and that she describes as a brunette one. This lady said to the GNR elements, and she (the witness) translated, that she had seen a man on the road who might have carried a child.
This situation surprised her because she (the witness) was convinced that when the lady saw the man, the lady was in a place from where she had no angle of vision for the place where she saw the man. She doesn't know exactly what was the position of the lady when she saw the man, but she knows that the lady said she saw the man in the street in front of the Madeleine's bedroom window, walking in the direction of the street that then leads to the Baptista supermarket.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SILVIA_BATISTA.htm

In my explanation JT turned left and took the pathway route to avoid the men chatting outside 5A gate and saw the man crossing the car park entrance in front of the apartments.

"She saw the man in the street in front of the Madeleine's bedroom window, walking in the direction of the street that then leads to the Baptista supermarket."
« Last Edit: November 27, 2016, 03:53:02 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #16 on: November 27, 2016, 03:47:03 PM »
This post clearly implies deceit on the part of Gerry McCann - is it to be permitted to remain on the forum, oh bastion of all that is and is not libel, Slartibartifart?

It asks how they didn't see her, no mention of deceit. Why would that be libel?
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Alfie

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Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #17 on: November 27, 2016, 03:49:28 PM »
It asks how they didn't see her, no mention of deceit. Why would that be libel?
As the post I was referring to has now been removed it would seem that I have been vindicated.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #18 on: November 27, 2016, 03:51:49 PM »
It may have been a deserted street, but actually it wasn't quite, was it?  Jez Wilkins was there and it was he  who had Gerry's attention and vice versa.  Jane Tanner walked by without drawing attention to herself.  The person in the forum I quoted above was alone, and even when greeted by name did not register the other person.  Will you people ever concede that this is neither impossible nor even out of the ordinary?!
Has anyone said it is impossible?
Going back Yes http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=7805.msg366391#msg366391
« Last Edit: November 27, 2016, 04:19:57 PM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline faithlilly

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #19 on: November 27, 2016, 03:52:16 PM »
As the post I was referring to has now been removed it would seem that I have been vindicated.

So do you believe Gerry was on the apartment side of the road?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfie

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Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #20 on: November 27, 2016, 03:53:00 PM »

Alfie

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Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #21 on: November 27, 2016, 03:54:01 PM »
So do you believe Gerry was on the apartment side of the road?
I have no firm opinion on the matter. 

Offline pathfinder73

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #22 on: November 27, 2016, 03:54:20 PM »
Yes!

My explanation is JT turned left and took the pathway route to avoid the men chatting outside 5A gate and saw the man crossing the car park entrance in front of the apartments.

"She saw the man in the street in front of the Madeleine's bedroom window, walking in the direction of the street that then leads to the Baptista supermarket."
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Alfie

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Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2016, 03:56:39 PM »
You said Gerry is innocent - I take that to mean you think he didn't hide Madeleine's body or something of that nature.
His check took a long time and there is no real explanation of what he did during that time.  Could there be activities he is holding back (not disclosing) because of a medical code of conduct?
Such as?

Offline faithlilly

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #24 on: November 27, 2016, 03:59:33 PM »
I have no firm opinion on the matter.

You who has an opinion on everything ?

So by your answer you are at least conceding that Gerry may have 'misremembered'. Am I correct?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #25 on: November 27, 2016, 04:00:44 PM »
Yes!
I've read that people say that Jane was lying, but nothing so far that it was impossible.
My explanation is JT turned left and took the pathway route to avoid the men chatting outside 5A gate and saw the man crossing the car park entrance in front of the apartments.

"She saw the man in the street in front of the Madeleine's bedroom window, walking in the direction of the street that then leads to the Baptista supermarket."
Where did the bit in quotation marks come from?

Such as?
Such as something happening between Gerry and Jez.  Are you happy that the time he takes for his check is accounted for?

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Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #26 on: November 27, 2016, 04:04:44 PM »
You who has an opinion on everything ?

So by your answer you are at least conceding that Gerry may have 'misremembered'. Am I correct?

The bolded part is goading, why you feel the need to keep doing so, only you can know.

The answer to your question is that clearly both Gerry and Jez remember things slightly differently, but there is no way of knowing who is right and who is wrong. 

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #27 on: November 27, 2016, 04:07:29 PM »
It was not possible to escape both men's attention passing them within feet in her flip flops that she had trouble walking in. Boy oh boy -  If you tried to reconstruct it you would be the biggest laughing stock. That's why the police didin't believe it and kept questioning this sighting.

At some point she translated the statement of one of the ladies who belonged to the group and that she describes as a brunette one. This lady said to the GNR elements, and she (the witness) translated, that she had seen a man on the road who might have carried a child.
This situation surprised her because she (the witness) was convinced that when the lady saw the man, the lady was in a place from where she had no angle of vision for the place where she saw the man. She doesn't know exactly what was the position of the lady when she saw the man, but she knows that the lady said she saw the man in the street in front of the Madeleine's bedroom window, walking in the direction of the street that then leads to the Baptista supermarket.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/SILVIA_BATISTA.htm

In my explanation JT turned left and took the pathway route to avoid the men chatting outside 5A gate and saw the man crossing the car park entrance in front of the apartments.

"She saw the man in the street in front of the Madeleine's bedroom window, walking in the direction of the street that then leads to the Baptista supermarket."
To me personally I can't understand why the opinions of Silvia Batista were allowed to become evidence.  That is terrible policing IMO.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2016, 04:11:27 PM »
The bolded part is goading, why you feel the need to keep doing so, only you can know.

The answer to your question is that clearly both Gerry and Jez remember things slightly differently, but there is no way of knowing who is right and who is wrong.
Even when there are 3 observers do you think it is impossible to work it out?  There might be a majority favouring one side, therefore we would say one had problems remembering it.
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Alfie

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Re: How could Jez and Gerry not see Jane?
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2016, 04:14:56 PM »
Even when there are 3 observers do you think it is impossible to work it out?  There might be a majority favouring one side, therefore we would say one had problems remembering it.
If you want to go with the majority opinion go with it.  I don't really care tbh.