Why was the first missing poster of a younger Madeleine?

[Robittybob1]

I don't know why the heading is saying 'a young looking Madeleine'   if you look at the well known photo of Madeleine in the red dress,  that was taken the Christmas before,  and looks identical to photo of Madeleine in pink which was the first photo given out,  so four and a half months before Madeleine disappeared.

They couldn't use any of the other photo's taken on the holiday in Portugal as none of them showed a full facial photo of Madeleine and her eye.   The Police always ask for a clear full facial view of a missing child.

It seems to be taken at Christmas 2005, a full year before the last Christmas.

[Robittybob1]

It seems to be taken at Christmas 2005, a full year before the last Christmas.

So I propose that the following is a fact:
The contents of the memory card was printed off by Amy T on her boyfriend's printer on 10X15 format.  ROB selected one particular photo, taken at Christmas 2005, from the choice of 20-30 photos.  This photo was then stuck on a sheet of A4 paper and the handwritten message was added One in Portuguese  the other in English using the same photo*, then placed on the top plate of a photocopier in the main reception and up to 200 posters were produced by John Hill and his wife.

* Whether he used the same photo will be checked.  Question: is it the same photo used in both the English and Portuguese versions of the poster?

[Robittybob1]

Looking at the two posters produced one photo has been cut shorter (and narrower as the right shoulder is closer to the edge of the photo) to be placed more central to the page and the sellotape (used to hold the photo in place) is visible in the image but not in the English version.  So if the same photo is used twice the English version must have been printed off first.

[Robittybob1]

Because the image of the poster has been cropped we can't tell if the photo was cut down to fit the poster in both cases, but the Portuguese version has definitely had part of the photo (above Madeleine's head) removed before the photocopying was done.

But there is no way anyone would start their handwriting so close to the edge of the page, all I can say part of the image has been cropped before it was published.
Very distinctive handwriting is displayed with the "i" dotted with a circle.  IMO It would probably be a woman and not Russell who wrote the message.

This becomes more obvious when you look at the source article http://www.anorak.co.uk/173454/tabloids/madeleine-mccann-introducing-amelie-and-the-maddie-catty.html/

[Robittybob1]

Here is a summary of events associated with the photos:http://fytton.blogspot.co.nz/2015_04_01_archive.html
I wonder how many of these are still available.?

Timeline PJ enquiry into printing of photographs:

25th June 2007 GNR hand over four photographs to GA, two of each pose.
26th July 2007 Silvia Batista gives a statement concerning photographs
27th July Photos are sent for scientific analyses
16th August 2007 -  external diligence -the photo paper in question found to be unavailable in four local establishments.
2nd October 2007 external inquiry report, John Hill interviewed.
10th April 2008 Russell O’Brien rogatory
17th April 2008 Amy Tierney rogatory (in PdL)

I think we have looked at all these sources but I'll check out "2nd October 2007 external inquiry report, John Hill interviewed."  Was John Hill's statement delayed till then?
No his statement was in June "1838 to 1840 Witness statement of John Eliot Hill 2007.06.20"  Does anyone know about the re-interview of John Hill?

[Robittybob1]

Goncalo seems to be accusing some of the T7 to be lying.... have I read that right?  https://theukdatabase.com/uk-child-abusers-named-and-shamed/calls-for-change-in-law/corruption/48-questions-kate-mccann-wouldnt-answer/maddie-the-truth-of-the-lie-the-book-banned-in-the-uk/maddie-the-truth-of-the-lie-chapter-7/

As if the memory of the McCann family’s friends suddenly came back to them, all – Rachael Mampilly, wife of Matthew Oldfield, Fiona Payne, wife of David Payne, and Russell O’Brien Jane Tanner’s partner – recall having seen Murat on the night of May 3rd, shortly after the announcement of the disappearance, in the immediate vicinity of apartment 5A. Meanwhile, of course, Murat’s picture has been shown on television and in certain newspapers. They themselves were in direct contact with him during the previous days. However, it is only on May 16th that they deliver this information to us. As for the officers of the National Guard who were on the spot, they didn’t see him that night, only the next morning, when he came to offer his services as interpreter.

On July 11th at 10am, a confrontation is organised between the witnesses – Rachael Mampilly, Fiona Payne and Russell O’Brien – and Robert Murat. Nothing new comes out of it. The former persist in stating that the suspect was definitely in the area on the night of the disappearance. Murat denies the whole thing and even accuses them of lying. Each side stands its ground. The only positive aspect of this meeting: the McCanns’ friends undertake to return to Portugal for the purpose of the investigation. That will not happen.

An interesting view on the affair:
http://thepottingshedder.blogspot.co.nz/2012/04/dr-obrien-conspicuous-by-his-absence.html

[Lace]

I thought it was Christmas 2005, though I may be mistaken. 

http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/20-dec8/N-O-T-W-21-12-08.htm

http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/20-dec8/N-O-T-W-21-12-08.htm

[Robittybob1]

http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/20-dec8/N-O-T-W-21-12-08.htm

http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/20-dec8/N-O-T-W-21-12-08.htm

"Moving pictures of Maddie's last Christmas at home"
If we can see the video we will be able to see the twins whether they were walking or not.

It was mostly filmed at Christmas 2006'the last time the McCanns were all together as a family over the festive period. The video shows Maddie sitting on the stairs of their home in Rothley, Leics, flanked by younger twins Sean and Amelie.

Is there a YouTube video of this?

[jassi]

http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/20-dec8/N-O-T-W-21-12-08.htm

http://gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/press/20-dec8/N-O-T-W-21-12-08.htm

I don't see the red dress among those pictures.

[Robittybob1]

here is a picture of Sean and Amelie in PDL  There seems to be a lot more than 4 months between these kids and the babies in the video of Christmas.
Maybe the host site has it wrong http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_KhZ4nHMJkUA/S2a-7u4l8AI/AAAAAAAABLs/LA2IxHTSE14/s1600-h/Kate+and+Gerry+at+the+zoo.jpg

 

[Benice]

Goncalo seems to be accusing some of the T7 to be lying.... have I read that right?  https://theukdatabase.com/uk-child-abusers-named-and-shamed/calls-for-change-in-law/corruption/48-questions-kate-mccann-wouldnt-answer/maddie-the-truth-of-the-lie-the-book-banned-in-the-uk/maddie-the-truth-of-the-lie-chapter-7/An interesting view on the affair:
http://thepottingshedder.blogspot.co.nz/2012/04/dr-obrien-conspicuous-by-his-absence.html

 No-one had forgotten seeing Murat on the 3rd,  but until his face was shown on TV after he had been made an  arguido - they had no idea that he was connected in any way to the case or that the police were investigating him.     Once they did know that - they contacted the police to let them know they had seen him on the night of the 3rd.   

All perfectly normal behaviour and nothing sinister whatsoever in that - but with sarcastic innuendo Amaral conveyed a completely different message to his readers. 

AIMHO   

[Robittybob1]

this one is definitely PDL.  Is it just 4 months since sean was wearing nappies?

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[Robittybob1]

No-one had forgotten seeing Murat on the 3rd,  but until his face was shown on TV after he had been made an  arguido - they had no idea that he was connected in any way to the case or that the police were investigating him.     Once they did know that - they contacted the police to let them know they had seen him on the night of the 3rd.   

All perfectly normal behaviour and nothing sinister whatsoever in that - but with sarcastic innuendo Amaral conveyed a completely different message to his readers. 

AIMHO

When does the night of the 3rd finish?  The PJ who arrive at OC after midnight say they arrive on the 4th, so if Murat went to Ocean Club at say 1:00 AM and says he wasn't there on the night of the 3rd is he right or wrong?

[Lace]

"Moving pictures of Maddie's last Christmas at home"
If we can see the video we will be able to see the twins whether they were walking or not.Is there a YouTube video of this?

Yes the twins were walking,   and Madeleine is in the red dress.

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube+madeleine+mccann+opening+christmas+present&view=detail&mid=2CD66763C43252FB30362CD66763C43252FB3036&FORM=VIRE

[jassi]

I'm not going to argue the toss on this, but that video is just a montage of all sorts, so the presence of the red dress could just be down to careful editing.