When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?

[Alfie]

But not a child neglector 

Could you explain that comment please?

[Alfie]

You 'support' child neglect, do you? How does that work? Do you support all child neglectors or just a select few?

Yup, love a good child neglector me.


Sigh.

You're obviously unaware that according to some McCann "sceptics", if you support the McCanns that means you support child neglect.

My comment was a joke.  Sorry it went over your head.

[Brietta]

What seems very apparent after a glance through tonight's threads, is that some Mccann supporters, only have sympathy for the Mccanns.

The Mccanns regret their actions, as they bloody well should, as no one forced them to do what they did in the first place, and hindsight  by expressing regret, is no excuse for their failures.

I also noted comments about supporting the Mccanns, implying those doing it, are bad parents themselves. That doesn't follow. However, I've got little time who won't criticize the Mccanns for what they clearly did wrong.

I've also seen, on here and elsewhere, criticism of those backing Amaral. That includes attacks on the morals and ethics of those who believe his hypothesis. So those attacking him can hardly complain if the tables are turned.

The bickering at the moment on this forum, is a preclude to the decision by the Portuguese Supreme Court. May that happen sooner rather than later.

I was going to remove that post for being off topic.  Then I realised it is far from it ... it is actually a perfect example of the mindset that fuels the flame of prejudice.

Madeleine McCann's plight just isn't going to be addressed in any way by such negativity ... only positive and loving action such as that taken by the parents who conceived her in love and bore her in love can assist her.
What they have done has resulted in the success of having her case reopened giving some hope for her.

What has the hatred achieved ... apart from corrupting those who nurture it in their bosoms?

In anticipation of the usual rejoinder ... the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance and who appears to have dropped off the opprobrium radar, is the person who stole her.
It is worth bearing that in mind.

[Eleanor]

You can't beat unkindness because it has no care beyond a fixed opinion.

[stephen25000]

I was going to remove that post for being off topic.  Then I realised it is far from it ... it is actually a perfect example of the mindset that fuels the flame of prejudice.

Madeleine McCann's plight just isn't going to be addressed in any way by such negativity ... only positive and loving action such as that taken by the parents who conceived her in love and bore her in love can assist her.
What they have done has resulted in the success of having her case reopened giving some hope for her.

What has the hatred achieved ... apart from corrupting those who nurture it in their bosoms?

In anticipation of the usual rejoinder ... the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance and who appears to have dropped off the opprobrium radar, is the person who stole her.
It is worth bearing that in mind.

All I see in your response is the same old mantra, typed out again and again.

I see hatred in your posts. Hatred of anyone who doesn't believe the Mccanns version of events, and thereby you try to undermine people by your criticisms. it won't work.

I'm afraid your pro-Mccann support ran stale a long time ago, and anyone taking the time to read about what actually happened will see exactly what you are up to.

It is also worth bearing in mind, it is not known if anyone stole/kidnapped Madeleine.

That is the propaganda machine at work again, and that wore thin years ago.

It hasn't been established with any certainty whatsoever, what happened to her, and it you pretend otherwise, you are deluded.

A point of fact which you got wrong, Madeleine was conceived by IVF.

Decent parents, would never have placed her or her siblings in danger in the first place.

By the way, as I said yesterday to you, IMO, you are overstepping the mark in moderating, letting your personal views get in the way of being even handed.

Copies of my posts are being kept, and removing them here would only result in them being posted elsewhere.

[Alice Purjorick]

I was going to remove that post for being off topic.  Then I realised it is far from it ... it is actually a perfect example of the mindset that fuels the flame of prejudice.

Madeleine McCann's plight just isn't going to be addressed in any way by such negativity ... only positive and loving action such as that taken by the parents who conceived her in love and bore her in love can assist her.
What they have done has resulted in the success of having her case reopened giving some hope for her.

What has the hatred achieved ... apart from corrupting those who nurture it in their bosoms?

In anticipation of the usual rejoinder ... the person responsible for Madeleine's disappearance and who appears to have dropped off the opprobrium radar, is the person who stole her.
It is worth bearing that in mind.

You do say the funniest of things at times.

[Alfie]

If the emergency services couldn't be called for some reason another solution had to be found. Unless a solution was found terrible consequences would follow. A case of 'needs must when the Devil drives'

A most oblique answer but still, I understand the constraints you are under.  I'd be very grateful if you would sketch out what you think happened after the child was found dead at the bottom of the stairs and PM it to me.  I will not divulge your theory to a soul without your permission.   I'm assuming you have a plausible and coherent narrative that makes perfect sense and fits all the evidence? I have been waiting ten years to read just such a theory of parental involvement so please put me out of my misery asap.

[slartibartfast]

It makes tackling the issue head on nigh on impossible doesn't it?  But then that's a huge advantage for one side, they can pick away at the minutiae, having their "doubts", puzzling over the minor discrepancies, but never actually being forced to try and join any dots.  Frustrating!

That's the difference, one side have made their mind up it was abduction, the other side has doubts and possibilities, and admit to not knowing what happened. You just have to
live with it.

[misty]

That's the difference, one side have made their mind up it was abduction, the other side has doubts and possibilities, and admit to not knowing what happened. You just have to
live with it.

I think you should have posted that there are 3 sides - those who believe an abduction occurred, those who believe only the parents were responsible for all events and those who just really can't form a definite opinion.
Whilst I am 95% sure that an abduction did occur, the remaining 5% of my mind says Madeleine may well have opened & climbed out the window herself, wandered to an unknown place & met an accidental death & the CSI did a rubbish job on the window handle  prints.I'm not sure how much persecution the parents would warrant in that scenario.

[sadie]

That's the difference, one side have made their mind up it was abduction, the other side has doubts and possibilities, and admit to not knowing what happened. You just have to
live with it.

Doubts and possibiliries, did you say?   

[G-Unit]

A most oblique answer but still, I understand the constraints you are under.  I'd be very grateful if you would sketch out what you think happened after the child was found dead at the bottom of the stairs and PM it to me.  I will not divulge your theory to a soul without your permission.   I'm assuming you have a plausible and coherent narrative that makes perfect sense and fits all the evidence? I have been waiting ten years to read just such a theory of parental involvement so please put me out of my misery asap.

All I have ever said is that a fatal fall was possible. The balcony was high enough and the steps and patio were hard enough for an unsupervised child to fall and to have a very bad landing. Madeleine was able to access the balcony during the early evening of 3rd May when her father was playing tennis and her mother was in the bathroom showering. She was also able to access the balcony from 8.30 pm. Dying from a fall is more common than being abducted by a stranger.

 39% of all children’s accidents are from falling. 10 children die each year from falling through a window or off a balcony
http://www.childalert.co.uk/safety.php?tab=Safety

[Mr Gray]

All I have ever said is that a fatal fall was possible. The balcony was high enough and the steps and patio were hard enough for an unsupervised child to fall and to have a very bad landing. Madeleine was able to access the balcony during the early evening of 3rd May when her father was playing tennis and her mother was in the bathroom showering. She was also able to access the balcony from 8.30 pm. Dying from a fall is more common than being abducted by a stranger.

 39% of all children’s accidents are from falling. 10 children die each year from falling through a window or off a balcony
http://www.childalert.co.uk/safety.php?tab=Safety

your claim thta this balcony was high enough is totally without validity .

The falls you claim occur from much greater heights....tower blocks and rarely second story....All the falls from balconies involve tower blocks so in fact abduction is more likely

[G-Unit]

your claim thta this balcony was high enough is totally without validity .

The falls you claim occur from much greater heights....tower blocks and rarely second story....All the falls from balconies involve tower blocks so in fact abduction is more likely

The greater the height the greater the risk of death, but the surface you land on and how you land are also significant factors. A fall onto a hard patio or steps and landing on your head, for example.

[Mr Gray]

The greater the height the greater the risk of death, but the surface you land on and how you land are also significant factors. A fall onto a hard patio or steps and landing on your head, for example.

the figure you quote relate in no way to the maddie situation...the balcony falls are from high rise flats. if thats the best you can come up with it is a massive fail and simply proves my point that there was no accidental death

[Robittybob1]

the figure you quote relate in no way to the maddie situation...the balcony falls are from high rise flats. if thats the best you can come up with it is a massive fail and simply proves my point that there was no accidental death

There still could have been an accident though. It doesn't have to be a death, but if she suffered an accident this could mean she is taken for medical attention.