When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?

[jassi]

OK, well let's put it this way - the case is solved and an abductor brought to justice, but some hardcore sceptics don't accept the verdict and continue to doubt, and populate forums like this with their doubts.  Then is that down to the McCanns' actions or not?

We are very much into hypotheticals now and I don't really know the answer, other than I would accept the result.
However, given my age, I consider it unlikely that I shall be around to witness such an eventuality.

[Alfie]

We are very much into hypotheticals now and I don't really know the answer, other than I would accept the result.
However, given my age, I consider it unlikely that I shall be around to witness such an eventuality.

I know the answer and I base it on the experience of Lindy Chamberlain.  Despite being completely exonerated, there is still a vocal group of doubters who continue to slag her off and accuse her of murder.  There is absolutely no reason to suppose it would be any different with the McCanns, if anything and because of the case occurring during the internet age (unlike the Azaria Chamberlain case) the hatred and doubting would most likely be more widespread and more intense.

[jassi]

I know the answer and I base it on the experience of Lindy Chamberlain.  Despite being completely exonerated, there is still a vocal group of doubters who continue to slag her off and accuse her of murder.  There is absolutely no reason to suppose it would be any different with the McCanns, if anything and because of the case occurring during the internet age (unlike the Azaria Chamberlain case) the hatred and doubting would most likely be more widespread and more intense.

If what Davel says it true, then they don't give a monkey's anyway.

[Alfie]

If what Davel says it true, then they don't give a monkey's anyway.

I think we should all care about it frankly because it could happen to any one of us, or our kids. There but for the grace of god and all that. Not that I'm suggesting for one moment any curbs on the freedom of speech or the freedom to hate and bitch to one's heart's content, but perhaps by being aware of the problem and the impact it can have on lives people might consider being a little kinder and a little less judgemental.  We have already seen how shit-storms on the internet and in the media can damage those with less robust constitutions. Perhaps coping with social media shaming and online bashing should be taught in schools?  And manners and kindness and forgiveness too.   

[Alice Purjorick]

Start with post 415
That is evidence

Only evidence that thus far there is insufficient evidence to charge Drs McCann with anything.
Of itself that is not evidence of an abduction. For balance of probablities to win you must show that there is more evidence to support the possibility of abduction than there is evidence to support any other possibility.

[jassi]

I think we should all care about it frankly because it could happen to any one of us, or our kids. There but for the grace of god and all that. Not that I'm suggesting for one moment any curbs on the freedom of speech or the freedom to hate and bitch to one's heart's content, but perhaps by being aware of the problem and the impact it can have on lives people might consider being a little kinder and a little less judgemental.  We have already seen how shit-storms on the internet and in the media can damage those with less robust constitutions. Perhaps coping with social media shaming and online bashing should be taught in schools?  And manners and kindness and forgiveness too.   

What else can you expect with the likes of Facebook & Twitter? Moderated forums are much more civilised.

[Alfie]

What else can you expect with the likes of Facebook & Twitter? Moderated forums are much more civilised.

Erm...not when the witching hour strikes....

[jassi]

Maybe not, but I go to bed early and seem to  miss all the good stuff. 

[ShiningInLuz]

I think we should all care about it frankly because it could happen to any one of us, or our kids. There but for the grace of god and all that. Not that I'm suggesting for one moment any curbs on the freedom of speech or the freedom to hate and bitch to one's heart's content, but perhaps by being aware of the problem and the impact it can have on lives people might consider being a little kinder and a little less judgemental.  We have already seen how shit-storms on the internet and in the media can damage those with less robust constitutions. Perhaps coping with social media shaming and online bashing should be taught in schools?  And manners and kindness and forgiveness too.   

Whilst not quite what you were suggesting, there is already a law requiring schools to prevent cyber-bullying in the first place, and to dish out punishment to pupils who breach this.

In the only case I am aware of, the school did not appear to care.

[Brietta]

Could you tell me what you mean by proof
No one apart from me is willing to define what they mean

Entirely off the top of my head ... I would consider proof to be corroborated evidence that an event has taken place substantiated by forensics if necessary.

By the nature of human beings, I would consider eye witness evidence to be valuable but I would consider it proof of an event only if backed up by CCTV or something else substantial and independent.

[Alice Purjorick]

Whilst not quite what you were suggesting, there is already a law requiring schools to prevent cyber-bullying in the first place, and to dish out punishment to pupils who breach this.

In the only case I am aware of, the school did not appear to care.

Schools frequently did/do not. Maybe it is considered part of a growing up process coupled with learning to cope with life in the real world ?
I recall "initiaton ceremonies" and about 20 eleven year olds dumping one of the schools "senior" bullies into intensive care, more than 50 years ago. That was at a Grammar School.
"I grew up quick and I grew up mean my fists got hard and wits got keen......................" J Cash.

[stephen25000]

Entirely off the top of my head ... I would consider proof to be corroborated evidence that an event has taken place substantiated by forensics if necessary.

By the nature of human beings, I would consider eye witness evidence to be valuable but I would consider it proof of an event only if backed up by CCTV or something else substantial and independent.

So 0% on that basis, for abduction.

[Brietta]

I don't agree Brietta, there is as much a possibility of her having woken up and wandered and met with some misfortune or other as there is of any abduction.  A independently uncorroborated claim of an opened shutter and window is not proof of an abduction.

I think had she wandered, she would have been found, dead or alive.  The timeline didn't give her much leeway to travel very far so I think she would have been found close to base.

[Robittybob1]

So 0% on that basis, for abduction.

0% on that basis, for anything other than missing.

[Mr Gray]

Only evidence that thus far there is insufficient evidence to charge Drs McCann with anything.
Of itself that is not evidence of an abduction. For balance of probablities to win you must show that there is more evidence to support the possibility of abduction than there is evidence to support any other possibility.

Let's be a little more honest
There is insufficient evidence to arrest the McCanns never mind charge or bring them to trial

That would suggest on the balance of probabilities they are innocent and therefor Maddie was abducted