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Alfie

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #75 on: December 12, 2016, 12:35:24 PM »
I suppose it's the difference between wanting forgiveness and thinking you have done nothing that needs forgiveness.
And who falls into the latter category, in your view?

Alfie

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #76 on: December 12, 2016, 12:37:08 PM »
Of course it's a personal choice but please don't pretend her decision is altruistic.
Why don't you tell us the reasons for her decision as you seem to know what is and isn't the case?

Alfie

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #77 on: December 12, 2016, 12:38:10 PM »
Then perhaps it's rather foolish to be claiming this then:

"Kate earned far more by writing the book, and now stays at home to look after the twins"
Which part of the quoted sentence is incorrect?

Offline Eleanor

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #78 on: December 12, 2016, 12:40:49 PM »
Then perhaps it's rather foolish to be claiming this then:

"Kate earned far more by writing the book, and now stays at home to look after the twins"

What is to be disputed about those two statements.  Perhaps you can explain why two statements of fact are foolish.

I am at a loss to understand your reasoning.  Unless you are trying to wind me up, which seems to be the most logical answer.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #79 on: December 12, 2016, 12:42:09 PM »
And who falls into the latter category, in your view?

From the article quoted it's obvious.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfie

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #80 on: December 12, 2016, 12:45:05 PM »
From the article quoted it's obvious.
No it's not.  Karen Matthews in the article is begging her friends and family for forgiveness (though no mention of her daughter and she still claims to be innocent of faking the kidnap) - so, perhaps you could explain exactly what you meant. 

Offline Benice

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #81 on: December 12, 2016, 01:23:50 PM »
Some 'enjoy' questioning the McCann's behaviour. Some 'enjoy' questioning Amaral's behaviour. Some 'enjoy' questioning Grime's behaviour. I see no difference, although some believe their behaviour can be morally justified and other's can't.

Sarah Payne did not close her twitter account because she was being asked questions.

Trying to claim there is no difference between the  treatment of the McCanns on the internet and that of Grime or Amaral is like claiming there is no difference between Mount Everest and Mount Snowdon, because they are both  mountains.

I have never read allegations anywhere that Martin Grime was a narcissistic psychopath, or a lying fraudster or a paedophile - to name but a few of the allegations which are screeched out on the WWW about the McCanns on a regular basis by gleeful 'trolls'.   I won't call them sceptics because that would be an undeserved insult to all sceptics here.

If you think Sara Payne closed her twitter account because she was being asked genuine questions by sceptics - and that she was not being persecuted by cruel people who enjoyed spitting venomous abuse at her - then that's not my problem.

Schardenfreud (sp?)  is a condition where people gain pleasure from other people's misfortune and  is alive and well on the internet IMO.

AIMHO

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #82 on: December 12, 2016, 01:33:31 PM »
Sarah Payne did not close her twitter account because she was being asked questions.

Trying to claim there is no difference between the  treatment of the McCanns on the internet and that of Grime or Amaral is like claiming there is no difference between Mount Everest and Mount Snowdon, because they are both  mountains.

I have never read allegations anywhere that Martin Grime was a narcissistic psychopath, or a lying fraudster or a paedophile - to name but a few of the allegations which are screeched out on the WWW about the McCanns on a regular basis by gleeful 'trolls'.   I won't call them sceptics because that would be an undeserved insult to all sceptics here.

If you think Sara Payne closed her twitter account because she was being asked genuine questions by sceptics - and that she was not being persecuted by cruel people who enjoyed spitting venomous abuse at her - then that's not my problem.

Schardenfreud (sp?)  is a condition where people gain pleasure from other people's misfortune and  is alive and well on the internet IMO.

AIMHO

'Schardenfreud (sp?)  is a condition where people gain pleasure from other people's misfortune and  is alive and well on the internet IMO.'

Now would that be applicable to those who have attacked Amaral and some of his fellow officers, plus people such as Grime and Harrison ?

Or would you view differently ?
« Last Edit: December 12, 2016, 01:38:34 PM by stephen25000 »

Offline faithlilly

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #83 on: December 12, 2016, 01:41:04 PM »
What is to be disputed about those two statements.  Perhaps you can explain why two statements of fact are foolish.

I am at a loss to understand your reasoning.  Unless you are trying to wind me up, which seems to be the most logical answer.

It would seem rather obvious to me. You claimed Kate stayed at home to look after the twins. The twins are now 11 years old and will shortly be going to secondary school. I also believe from quite a young age they were driven to school in the school bus. Therefore your claim that she has not sought employment in order to look after the twins is, with respect, nonsense.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #84 on: December 12, 2016, 01:48:00 PM »
It would seem rather obvious to me. You claimed Kate stayed at home to look after the twins. The twins are now 11 years old and will shortly be going to secondary school. I also believe from quite a young age they were driven to school in the school bus. Therefore your claim that she has not sought employment in order to look after the twins is, with respect, nonsense.

Can you tell me why Kate McCann should seek employment?  In your opinion, obviously.

Thank you in advance.

Offline Brietta

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #85 on: December 12, 2016, 01:48:44 PM »
It would seem rather obvious to me. You claimed Kate stayed at home to look after the twins. The twins are now 11 years old and will shortly be going to secondary school. I also believe from quite a young age they were driven to school in the school bus. Therefore your claim that she has not sought employment in order to look after the twins is, with respect, nonsense.

Why are you so interested in every detail of the life of a woman who, as far as I know you have never met and who, as far as I know neither knows or cares of your existence or who has ever done you any harm?
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline faithlilly

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #86 on: December 12, 2016, 01:57:39 PM »
Can you tell me why Kate McCann should seek employment?  In your opinion, obviously.

Thank you in advance.

To help fund the litigation that she and her husband seem so fond of? Also perhaps it would not look quite so hypocritical when soliciting funds from the public via the donate button on their website that Kate actually made an attempt to contribute herself?

I believe that's exactly what Kerry Needham did.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Alfie

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #87 on: December 12, 2016, 02:03:00 PM »
To help fund the litigation that she and her husband seem so fond of? Also perhaps it would not look quite so hypocritical when soliciting funds from the public via the donate button on their website that Kate actually made an attempt to contribute herself?

I believe that's exactly what Kerry Needham did.
Kate contributed to the fund by writing a best selling book which raised hundreds of thousands of pounds.  For all we know she could be writing another book, in her new career as best selling author.  Of course that would greatly please you wouldn't it.  @)(++(*

Offline faithlilly

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #88 on: December 12, 2016, 02:04:34 PM »
Why are you so interested in every detail of the life of a woman who, as far as I know you have never met and who, as far as I know neither knows or cares of your existence or who has ever done you any harm?

And why do you seek to defend a woman you have never met and can have no idea what motivates her?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #89 on: December 12, 2016, 02:10:15 PM »
Kate contributed to the fund by writing a best selling book which raised hundreds of thousands of pounds.  For all we know she could be writing another book, in her new career as best selling author.  Of course that would greatly please you wouldn't it.  @)(++(*

Another book? When the public's only interest in the McCanns is through their daughter what else can you write? Or are you trying to suggest that the public's interest in Kate's literary efforts are anything other than prurient?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?