Author Topic: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?  (Read 76724 times)

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stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #600 on: December 20, 2016, 06:57:23 PM »
That statement requires a cite.

It is what happened.

A matter of fact.

The Mccanns communicated with Government officials and vice versa.

stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #601 on: December 20, 2016, 06:58:30 PM »
Even if they did - what is wrong with that?    Any parent in their position, especially in a foreign country, would be desperate for help from anyone who they thought could help them in any way  to find their missing child.  I wouldn't be asking them for their help - I'd be begging them for it.

From the highest levels of Government ?

Including Prime Ministers ?

stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #602 on: December 20, 2016, 06:59:13 PM »
"Old news" or not, it is a cite supporting my argument ... you really should try using the technique sometimes.

I do use cites when possible and I do understand them. 8)-)))

Offline Lace

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #603 on: December 20, 2016, 07:11:26 PM »
Calling in favours.

Gerry McCann already had connections.

COMARE. Look it up.

I thought they contacted the McCann's?

You really believe that they 'called in favours'?   

Wow all that help and they were still made Arguido's.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #604 on: December 20, 2016, 07:36:03 PM »
Seems some of her doubts and fears were justified ...


I BOTCHED THE MADDY PROBE

Daily Mirror
ROD CHAYTOR
8 May 2009

..says top Portuguese cop

THE police chief who led the probe into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann finally admitted yesterday he bungled the job.

Admitting that the Portuguese police had been at fault, Goncalo Amaral said: "It's true.

"At the time there was no set procedure in the case of a missing child. The crime scene was not well looked after. Since then such things have improved."

He also admitted a reconstruction into Madeleine's disappearance "should have quickly been organised".

At the time Madeleine vanished, two years ago this week, Portuguese police refused to allow a Crimewatch-style reconstruction.
http://themaddiecasefiles.com/topic8754.html
Oh dear.

No missing child procedure.  No CSI manual.  No nailing the T9 down to a quick reconstruction in front of the world's media, media called in by Team McCann when the McCanns had been told no media.  And the Portuguese don't do CrimeWatch.

Mr Chaytor does do lurid sensationalism, it would appear.  Who does he work for?  Ah, the Mirror.  We can trust what we read in the Mirror, or can we?
What's up, old man?

stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #605 on: December 20, 2016, 07:38:04 PM »
I thought they contacted the McCann's?

You really believe that they 'called in favours'?   

Wow all that help and they were still made Arguido's.

Then they flew off back to the UK.

Can you give examples of any people who have received as much 'assistance' from any UK government , all the way to to several P.M.'s ?

Remembering of course that members of the UK police directed the PJ to investigate the McCann's, until of course other UK police changed track. &%+((£

stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #606 on: December 20, 2016, 07:39:30 PM »
Oh dear.

No missing child procedure.  No CSI manual.  No nailing the T9 down to a quick reconstruction in front of the world's media, media called in by Team McCann when the McCanns had been told no media.  And the Portuguese don't do CrimeWatch.

Mr Chaytor does do lurid sensationalism, it would appear.  Who does he work for?  Ah, the Mirror.  We can trust what we read in the Mirror, or can we?

...And don't forget what the fragrant Tony Parsons, who was working at the Mirror, said about the Portuguese.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #607 on: December 20, 2016, 07:51:36 PM »
The Mirror can't be all bad: It gave us "Elephant Jokes".
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #608 on: December 20, 2016, 10:43:31 PM »
Oh dear.

No missing child procedure.  No CSI manual.  No nailing the T9 down to a quick reconstruction in front of the world's media, media called in by Team McCann when the McCanns had been told no media.  And the Portuguese don't do CrimeWatch.

Mr Chaytor does do lurid sensationalism, it would appear.  Who does he work for?  Ah, the Mirror.  We can trust what we read in the Mirror, or can we?

The problem for you as a PJ apologist is the article fits the facts perfectly
I'm pretty good at sorting the wheat from the chaff

stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #609 on: December 21, 2016, 08:02:19 AM »




' NSPCC advice - never leave young children home alone

 UK government advice - never leave young children home alone

 The Law - it is an offence to leave children home alone if doing so places them in danger

CPN ( former poster and Mod on here,a highly qualified professional in social work, specializing in child safety) - never leave young children home alone

RoSPA - never leave young children home alone

Madeleine's grandmother - I cannot understand what they thought they were doing '

Anything to say ferryman ?   8)-)))



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Offline G-Unit

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #610 on: December 21, 2016, 08:29:06 AM »


' NSPCC advice - never leave young children home alone

 UK government advice - never leave young children home alone

 The Law - it is an offence to leave children home alone if doing so places them in danger

CPN ( former poster and Mod on here,a highly qualified professional in social work, specializing in child safety) - never leave young children home alone

RoSPA - never leave young children home alone

Madeleine's grandmother - I cannot understand what they thought they were doing '

Anything to say ferryman ?   8)-)))

I do. The advice above is not given because your child may be abducted. It's given because of other dangers associated with leaving children home alone.
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stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #611 on: December 21, 2016, 08:30:53 AM »
I do. The advice above is not given because your child may be abducted. It's given because of other dangers associated with leaving children home alone.

Precisely the point G-Unit.

Leaving children exposed to unnecessary dangers, is inexcusable.

Offline Benice

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #612 on: December 21, 2016, 08:44:12 AM »


' NSPCC advice - never leave young children home alone

 UK government advice - never leave young children home alone

 The Law - it is an offence to leave children home alone if doing so places them in danger

CPN ( former poster and Mod on here,a highly qualified professional in social work, specializing in child safety) - never leave young children home alone

RoSPA - never leave young children home alone

Madeleine's grandmother - I cannot understand what they thought they were doing '

Anything to say ferryman ?   8)-)))

The McCanns were not at home. and there is no evidence that they ever did leave their children alone and go out while they were at home.          Whether you agree with it or not  -  leaving your children asleep in their room and going out is an acceptable practice for people on holiday and has been for decades.   And parents are not prosecuted for choosing that form of childcare - be it via the listening method of checking or by the use of baby alarms, whilst they are on holiday.

Like it or not  - those are the facts.

Singling the McCanns out as it they are the only parents who have ever chosen that type of childcare on holiday is to pretend that those facts  - and those other parents don't exist.   And that is plainly untrue.

IMO





The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

stephen25000

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Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #613 on: December 21, 2016, 08:48:10 AM »
The McCanns were not at home. and there is no evidence that they ever did leave their children alone and go out while they were at home.          Whether you agree with it or not  -  leaving your children asleep in their room and going out is an acceptable practice for people on holiday and has been for decades.   And parents are not prosecuted for choosing that form of childcare - be it via the listening method of checking or by the use of baby alarms, whilst they are on holiday.

Like it or not  - those are the facts.

Singling the McCanns out as it they are the only parents who have ever chosen that type of childcare on holiday is to pretend that those facts  - and those other parents don't exist.   And that is plainly untrue.

IMO

It doesn't matter whether they were at home or on holiday.

They left their children alone, as did the others.

I condemn any parents who did what they did, and if you had paid the slightest attention to posts on this issue, you would have known that already.

What is it with people like you, who keep making excuses for the Mccanns ?

There aren't any.

It's about time you realized that.

Offline Lace

Re: When will the online persecution of the McCanns end?
« Reply #614 on: December 21, 2016, 08:54:50 AM »
Then they flew off back to the UK.

Can you give examples of any people who have received as much 'assistance' from any UK government , all the way to to several P.M.'s ?

Remembering of course that members of the UK police directed the PJ to investigate the McCann's, until of course other UK police changed track. &%+((£

The Portuguese police knew the McCann's would have to leave at some point,   the twins needed to get back to a normal family life,  Gerry needed to get back to work.    It was ok'd with the Portuguese police that they flew home.   Don't make it sound as if they ran away,  they didn't.

Now I will repeat what I said before as you seem to be ignoring it.    The McCann case was huge media wise,  there wasn't another case like it.   The PM's got in on the limelight,  it made them look good.   Why else would you think they got involved?    Calling in favours?  I'm sorry that is laughable.

You say 'remember the UK police directed the PJ to investigate the McCann's'   so there you go,  what protection do you think they were getting from 'high up'?