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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #45 on: December 24, 2016, 04:03:57 PM »
Light could permeate from the street lamp outside depending upon which story about the light intensity you wish to believe.
There appear to be two versions.
1. When people are lurking or Jane Tanner is walking up the street it's about 100fc
2. When looking from a table in The Tapas Bar toward block 5 it's about 10,000 fc.
Allegedly
Yer pays yer money and takes yer choice.
You are introducing a separate topic here about the lighting along the road. Your comment maybe valid but it is not up for discussion.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #46 on: December 24, 2016, 04:14:53 PM »
I see a pattern emerging. If Kate says something which doesn't fit with other evidence, it's always someone else's fault, not hers. It seems to you are basing that solely on your own beliefs, unless you can produce evidence that you're right.
Right there are many reasons I can think why this is a mistake in translation:
1. The construction of your original sentences seemed awkward with the word open being used too many times.
2. If the curtains were opened by a burglar and the shutter were up there would have been shafts of light entering the room coming from the street lights. Kate would picked this up immediately.
3. when the curtains parted in the gust of with it was then that she had the use of this light to see that Madeleine was missing.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #47 on: December 24, 2016, 04:19:46 PM »
Ah but if Tannerman, as the McCanns would have us believe, was the abductor the curtains would have been open at Oldfield's 9.30 visit and he would have noticed.
The curtains were closed but they parted in the wind.  Later they may have been partially openned after people had peered out the window looking to see if Madeleine had dropped out the window.
« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 05:33:56 PM by John »
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Offline jassi

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #48 on: December 24, 2016, 04:29:13 PM »
You mean more tampering with the crime scene ?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #49 on: December 24, 2016, 04:32:22 PM »
You mean more tampering with the crime scene ?
This was before they all realised it was a crime scene.  Kate realised it quickly the others needed more convincing.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #50 on: December 24, 2016, 04:49:45 PM »
You are introducing a separate topic here about the lighting along the road. Your comment maybe valid but it is not up for discussion.

I am talking about light howsoever generated which about fits in with the thread title.
You seem to have your unofficial mod head on again.
Maybe you need a break........ &%+((£

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Offline Robittybob1

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #51 on: December 24, 2016, 04:52:59 PM »
I am talking about light howsoever generated which about fits in with the thread title.
You seem to have your unofficial mod head on again.
Maybe you need a break........ &%+((£
I apologise for I now realise the ambient lighting levels will affect the amount of light coming through the flapping curtains.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #52 on: December 24, 2016, 05:11:11 PM »
Kate couldn't make her out being so dark with alleged open window/shutter but Gerry easily could having his proud father moment. Another fine mess LOL.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Eleanor

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #53 on: December 24, 2016, 05:29:42 PM »
Kate couldn't make her out being so dark with alleged open window/shutter but Gerry easily could having his proud father moment. Another fine mess LOL.

Kate couldn't make her out because she wasn't there.  Nothing to do with the quality of light.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #54 on: December 24, 2016, 05:32:08 PM »
Kate couldn't make her out being so dark with alleged open window/shutter but Gerry easily could having his proud father moment. Another fine mess LOL.
Gerry unlike the rest turned on the light in the kid's bedroom.
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #55 on: December 24, 2016, 05:48:43 PM »
Gerry unlike the rest turned on the light in the kid's bedroom.

He didn't want to wake the kids so he turned the light on. What nonsense.

"They also kissed Madeleine, who was lying down. She was under the covers, she thinks because she was a bit cold."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

"With respect to the bed where his daughter was on the night she disappeared he says that she slept uncovered, as usual when she was hot, with the bedclothes folded down."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

As I said, another fine mess.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #56 on: December 24, 2016, 06:01:26 PM »
He didn't want to wake the kids so he turned the light on. What nonsense.

"They also kissed Madeleine, who was lying down. She was under the covers, she thinks because she was a bit cold."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN_ARGUIDO.htm

"With respect to the bed where his daughter was on the night she disappeared he says that she slept uncovered, as usual when she was hot, with the bedclothes folded down."
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm

As I said, another fine mess.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/GERRY-MCCANN-10MAY.htm
"----- With respect to the bed where his daughter was on the night she disappeared he says that she slept uncovered, as usual when she was hot, with the bedclothes folded down. With respect to the other bed next to the window in the children's bedroom he says that it showed no signs that anyone had put their feet on it, namely, dirt or shoe prints."
So doubts anyone entered through the window either.  Thanks for that.

Do you accept my finding Gerry turned on the light at his check?
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #57 on: December 24, 2016, 06:07:55 PM »
No.

7:24 - room is dark then he turns the light on but he made a point of coming in through the quieter patio way not to wake the kids (13:46).

« Last Edit: December 24, 2016, 06:17:27 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline G-Unit

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #58 on: December 24, 2016, 06:26:20 PM »
Gerry unlike the rest turned on the light in the kid's bedroom.

According to you he did that in a documentary. It doesn't follow that he did that on 3rd May.
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?
« Reply #59 on: December 24, 2016, 06:51:02 PM »
This was before they all realised it was a crime scene. Kate realised it quickly the others needed more convincing.

Didn't someone think immediately that Madeliene had been taken?
If so that would be a criminal offence  (A. Redwood); ergo it was appreciated it was a crime scene from the off.
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