How was it light enough for Gerry to see Madeleine but the others couldn't?

[G-Unit]

I didn't say anything about how noisy or otherwise the shutter operation was.
My views on the video clips showing the operation of the shutters, put up on here, are well recorded.

They were noisy when being closed;

We used to open the blinds during the day, returning to close them at night. When the blinds were [being] closed they would make much noise.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAUL_GORDON.htm

[Eleanor]

They were noisy when being closed;

We used to open the blinds during the day, returning to close them at night. When the blinds were [being] closed they would make much noise.
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAUL_GORDON.htm

Not around here, they don't.  Make a noise, that is.  And most people have them these days.  What a clatter that would be.

[faithlilly]

Not around here, they don't.  Make a noise, that is.  And most people have them these days.  What a clatter that would be.

And if the disappearance had happened around your area your observation may have had some relevance.

[Eleanor]

And if the disappearance had happened around your area your observation may have had some relevance.

These shutters are basically all the same.

[Robittybob1]

These shutters are basically all the same.

In Heriberto's demonstration they seemed rather noisy. If you say they are quiet, it would depend how much caution the "burglar" was.  They might have known there were kids in the apartment and they wouldn't want crying kids to slow them down so I'd imagine they took care not to disturb the kids.

[Robittybob1]

In a type of reconstruction video "Madeleine McCann - Cutting Edge Show 070509 - Tapas 9" https://youtu.be/atfDV7imHHY?t=433 Gerry demonstrates his check of Madeleine and without hesitation he turns the light on.  Now that was a surprise but it certainly explains why he was able to see Madeleine so much better than the other two.
OK we'll have to find out why he would turn on the lights later.  But HE TURNED ON THE LIGHTS! And turns them off as he leaves.  I think this is very significant for something must have been more important than keeping the kids asleep when you turn on the lights they are very likely to wake up and it puts to rest any idea that there may have been someone hiding behind the door in the bedroom.

[faithlilly]

These shutters are basically all the same.

Why would Paul Gordon say they were noisy if they weren't? What would he have to gain?

[Robittybob1]

Contrast Gerry's visit with Kate's later.
From Peter Mac's E book for the text "In 2008 Kate McCann gave an interview in which she described graphically what happened when she entered the apartment for her check, and discovered Madeleine to be missing.

“I did my check about ten o’clock and went in through the sliding patio doors, and I just stood actually, and I thought, uh, all quiet. And to be honest, I might have been tempted to turn round then, but I just noticed that the door, the bedroom door where the three children were sleeping, was open much further than we’d left it.
I went to close it to about here, and then as I got to here, it suddenly . . . slammed, and as I opened it, it was then, that I just thought I’ll just look at the children.
I see Sean and Amelie in the cot . . . .
I was looking at Madeleine’s bed which is here, and it was dark and I was looking and I was thinking is that, is that Madeleine or is that the bedding and I couldn't quite make her out, and it sounds really stupid now, but at the time I was just thinking I didn’t want to put the light on because I didn't want to wake them, and literally as I went back in, the curtains of the bedroom which were drawn, [demonstrates with both forearms together] that were closed, “wheesh’ like a gust of wind kind of blew them open.
And cuddle cat was still there, and the pink blanket was still there. I knew straight away that, err, she’d been . . . taken, yer know.” 
I think that just about confirms the main difference is one turned the light on and the other didn't, but also didn't need to because of the extra light coming through the curtain because the shutters were up.

[Robittybob1]

Why would Paul Gordon say they were noisy if they weren't? What would he have to gain?

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PAUL_GORDON.htm
36 to 38 Witness statement of Paul Anthony Gordon (former holidaymaker in Apartment 5 A) 2008.04.24
"The doors, windows and shutters were in perfect working order.
There was no sign of the doors, windows and blinds ever having been broken into, but also there was no need to examine [them]. The front door had a double lock that was difficult to lock, but we managed to do it. The patio door did not lock from the outside, only from the inside of the apartment and for that reason when the family left [went out] together we always used the front door.

We used to open the blinds during the day, returning to close them at night. When the blinds were [being] closed they would make much noise."

You would think Eleanor is right.  I'd say they were designed to be quiet but from what we read the ones in 5A were noisy. So maybe they just needed a bit of CRC.

Thanks Faithlilly.

[G-Unit]

Contrast Gerry's visit with Kate's later.
From Peter Mac's E book for the text "In 2008 Kate McCann gave an interview in which she described graphically what happened when she entered the apartment for her check, and discovered Madeleine to be missing.

“I did my check about ten o’clock and went in through the sliding patio doors, and I just stood actually, and I thought, uh, all quiet. And to be honest, I might have been tempted to turn round then, but I just noticed that the door, the bedroom door where the three children were sleeping, was open much further than we’d left it.
I went to close it to about here, and then as I got to here, it suddenly . . . slammed, and as I opened it, it was then, that I just thought I’ll just look at the children.
I see Sean and Amelie in the cot . . . .
I was looking at Madeleine’s bed which is here, and it was dark and I was looking and I was thinking is that, is that Madeleine or is that the bedding and I couldn't quite make her out, and it sounds really stupid now, but at the time I was just thinking I didn’t want to put the light on because I didn't want to wake them, and literally as I went back in, the curtains of the bedroom which were drawn, [demonstrates with both forearms together] that were closed, “wheesh’ like a gust of wind kind of blew them open.
And cuddle cat was still there, and the pink blanket was still there. I knew straight away that, err, she’d been . . . taken, yer know.” 
I think that just about confirms the main difference is one turned the light on and the other didn't, but also didn't need to because of the extra light coming through the curtain because the shutters were up.

Ah, those curtains! Drawn, she says;

4th May;

the curtains open
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm

[Robittybob1]

Ah, those curtains! Drawn, she says;

4th May;

the curtains open
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm

Could be a slight translation interpretation issue.

[faithlilly]

Ah, those curtains! Drawn, she says;

4th May;

the curtains open
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/KATE-MCCANN.htm

Ah but if Tannerman, as the McCanns would have us believe, was the abductor the curtains would have been open at Oldfield's 9.30 visit and he would have noticed.

[Alfie]

Ah but if Tannerman, as the McCanns would have us believe, was the abductor the curtains would have been open at Oldfield's 9.30 visit and he would have noticed.

If the McCanns story is impossible, what on earth does that make your tall tale of improbable events?

[G-Unit]

Could be a slight translation interpretation issue.

I see a pattern emerging. If Kate says something which doesn't fit with other evidence, it's always someone else's fault, not hers. It seems to you are basing that solely on your own beliefs, unless you can produce evidence that you're right.

[Alice Purjorick]

Light could permeate from the street lamp outside depending upon which story about the light intensity you wish to believe.
There appear to be two versions.
1. When people are lurking or Jane Tanner is walking up the street it's about 100fc
2. When looking from a table in The Tapas Bar toward block 5 it's about 10,000 fc.
Allegedly
Yer pays yer money and takes yer choice.