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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #15 on: December 24, 2016, 04:34:35 PM »
I have limited information as to when the shutter was raised and the window opened.  That it was is not the question.  It is when?
Not even a hunch or a favourite time?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2016, 04:39:01 PM »
I know what you have said, but have seen no evidence that it's true. Suggesting that Silvia deliberately didn't translate what Kate said is quite unfounded.

Please explain why a group of doctors didn't insist on getting the twins checked out, if, as Kate suggests, they thought they may have been given an unknown substance to sedate them? I thought that was drummed into them during their training?
I thought you even suggested it was a possibility.
you said "Kate's report of their interaction with the GNR in 'Madeleine';
I reported my fears that all three children could have been sedated.
Did the GNR officers totally ignore this? Did Silvia, a mother herself, totally ignore it?"
Or were you quoting Kate entirely?
In which case Kate suggests it rather than you.

To ignore someone's request is to do it deliberately.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2016, 04:49:02 PM »
I can explain exactly why
The fact that the twins vital signs were normal meant that they were not in danger and any sedative was wearing off
Even if that is true they couldn't be sure if they were going to become progressively more sedate.  Are you suggesting the doctors knew when and what had been administered to the twins?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #18 on: December 24, 2016, 07:12:09 PM »
I have limited information as to when the shutter was raised and the window opened.  That it was is not the question.  It is when?

You are totally wrong....What is critical is who raised the shutter
We know that none of the tapas was responsible according to their statements
So are they all lying... of course not
So that leaves a third party
If we knew that we would understand a lot more
Would you not agree

Offline jassi

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #19 on: December 24, 2016, 07:13:14 PM »
You are totally wrong....What is critical is who raised the shutter
We know that none of the tapas was responsible according to their statements
So are they all lying... of course not
So that leaves a third party
If we knew that we would understand a lot more
Would you not agree

Only they can answer that.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #20 on: December 24, 2016, 07:19:46 PM »
Only they can answer that.

They have

Offline jassi

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #21 on: December 24, 2016, 07:23:00 PM »
They have

Really?  Have any of them made sworn statements that they are telling the truth ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #22 on: December 24, 2016, 07:25:59 PM »
They have
What just accept and never question as to whether anyone is lying?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #23 on: December 24, 2016, 07:31:57 PM »
What just accept and never question as to whether anyone is lying?
Just because I believe them does not mean I simply accept that they are telling the truth
Looking at all the availability evidence so believe the McCanns are telling the truth

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2016, 07:33:52 PM »
Really?  Have any of them made sworn statements that they are telling the truth ?
Would it make a scrap of difference to you
None of the tapas has ever questioned the anductipn

Offline jassi

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2016, 07:35:08 PM »
Would it make a scrap of difference to you
None of the tapas has ever questioned the anductipn


?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2016, 07:37:35 PM »
Just because I believe them does not mean I simply accept that they are telling the truth
Looking at all the availability evidence so believe the McCanns are telling the truth
Definitely the focus has been on the McCanns.  But how can you eliminate all the others from opening the shutters etc. just based on their statements?

?
Abduction.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2016, 07:38:07 PM »

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #28 on: December 24, 2016, 07:40:03 PM »
Definitely the focus has been on the McCanns.  But how can you eliminate all the others from opening the shutters etc. just based on their statements?Abduction.

Thank you for helping the less able out

Any suggestion that any of the tapas opened the shutters is ridiculous based on the evidences

Offline jassi

Re: Is this a reasonable objection?
« Reply #29 on: December 24, 2016, 07:45:09 PM »
Thank you for helping the less able out

Any suggestion that any of the tapas opened the shutters is ridiculous based on the evidences

What evidence would that be ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future