Author Topic: Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.  (Read 215590 times)

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Offline misty

This one was done to death quite a while ago.
The logistics are interesting to say the least. Arthur Bishop would have loved it I am sure.

I know it has been done to death but it's just another example of the variety of ways criminals adopt to achieve their goal and could wreak havoc with the mind of any victim of a similar crime.
Nobody, but nobody other than Kate & Fiona expressed any concern that the twins may have also been sedated - not the emergency service at scene, the nannies, the plethora of other doctors at the resort. Yet somehow, Kate was supposed to have immediately reacted to this improbable "life-threatening situation" by demanding immediate medical tests.
Any abductor was not going to overdose 2 children they had no interest in & risk facing a possible murder charge if they were caught.

Offline Robittybob1

The 'noises' were made to the FLO's and related only to Madeleine, so why would anyone think to test the twins?
I tend to think the McCanns were the meat in the sandwich between the two police jurisdictions.  The British team answered the question with a "no" so when they in returned asking for evidence that Madeleine had been sedated they were answered with another "no". 
Not because the PJ couldn't test the twins but they just wanted to use that mighty word "NO".
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Offline Mr Gray

I know it has been done to death but it's just another example of the variety of ways criminals adopt to achieve their goal and could wreak havoc with the mind of any victim of a similar crime.
Nobody, but nobody other than Kate & Fiona expressed any concern that the twins may have also been sedated - not the emergency service at scene, the nannies, the plethora of other doctors at the resort. Yet somehow, Kate was supposed to have immediately reacted to this improbable "life-threatening situation" by demanding immediate medical tests.
Any abductor was not going to overdose 2 children they had no interest in & risk facing a possible murder charge if they were caught.
Kate raised the concern that the twins had been sedated
I haven't seen anything to suggest she thought they had been over sedated and needed any sort of immediate treatment

Offline faithlilly

And if they'd rushed to hospital you'd think them completely innocent of sedating their kids?

If they'd actually sought help on the night then it would certainly look less suspicious.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline misty

If they'd actually sought help on the night then it would certainly look less suspicious.

Less suspicious to who? How could they ever have known that people would still be dissecting their every move & decision nearly 10 years after the event?

Offline Robittybob1

If they'd actually sought help on the night then it would certainly look less suspicious.
So it would someone else's advantage to stop them getting help!
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Alfie

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If they'd actually sought help on the night then it would certainly look less suspicious.
@)(++(* yeah right

Alfie

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If they'd actually sought help on the night then it would certainly look less suspicious.
Even their primary accuser doesn't use this apparent failure against them in his book but you do, I wonder why... &%+((£

Alfie

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So you think Dr K McCann's fears were ill founded despite her training and practice?
No - I think she was right to be concerned and right to raise the issue of possible sedation with the police. 

I see even in the last month there has been another of these "gassing" robberies on the continent.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4001318/British-family-gassed-robbed-1-000-slept-caravan-French-service-station-way-Disneyland.html  Whilst logically it may seem improbable, as a mother faced with the sudden disappearance of a child in mysterious circumstances it's not improbable that your thoughts might turn to incidents like these.

Offline Robittybob1

No - I think she was right to be concerned and right to raise the issue of possible sedation with the police. 

I see even in the last month there has been another of these "gassing" robberies on the continent.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4001318/British-family-gassed-robbed-1-000-slept-caravan-French-service-station-way-Disneyland.html  Whilst logically it may seem improbable, as a mother faced with the sudden disappearance of a child in mysterious circumstances it's not improbable that your thoughts might turn to incidents like these.
So what is the gas being used?
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Offline faithlilly

No - I think she was right to be concerned and right to raise the issue of possible sedation with the police. 

I see even in the last month there has been another of these "gassing" robberies on the continent.  http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4001318/British-family-gassed-robbed-1-000-slept-caravan-French-service-station-way-Disneyland.html  Whilst logically it may seem improbable, as a mother faced with the sudden disappearance of a child in mysterious circumstances it's not improbable that your thoughts might turn to incidents like these.

Is it anymore appalling if parents do not seek medical help after they suspect their children have been gassed rather than sedated by some other means ?
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline faithlilly


You raised the scenario. Are you now distancing yourself from it as it didn't serve your purpose?
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Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Lace

I know it has been done to death but it's just another example of the variety of ways criminals adopt to achieve their goal and could wreak havoc with the mind of any victim of a similar crime.
Nobody, but nobody other than Kate & Fiona expressed any concern that the twins may have also been sedated - not the emergency service at scene, the nannies, the plethora of other doctors at the resort. Yet somehow, Kate was supposed to have immediately reacted to this improbable "life-threatening situation" by demanding immediate medical tests.
Any abductor was not going to overdose 2 children they had no interest in & risk facing a possible murder charge if they were caught.

I agree misty.

The thing is Kate traumatised at finding her daughter missing,   remembering the stain on Madeleine's pyjamas is struck by the thought that the twins could have been sedated.    Fiona though saying that the twins were not waking up,  didn't seem to share this thought with Kate,  she said they were fine.   So if you have someone reassuring you that the twins are fine, dealing with the fact that Madeleine was missing,  even though it is at the back of your mind,  you wouldn't react the way as you would normally.

We don't know for instance if the twins changed position in their cots,  if they were unconscious apparently they wouldn't do this.   We don't know if Fiona examined them,  she doesn't say she did,  but we don't know.   Did the twins let out a sigh or any other sounds?   we don't know.

The fact is they were Dr's they were intelligent people,  and I really can't imagine intelligent people not bothering if the twins were in any immediate danger,   or Kate writing in her book months later about what she believed and did,  knowing that if she hadn't acted properly she would be struck off as a Dr.  Indeed Social  Services visited the McCann's,   I am sure if they had any concerns about how they reacted to the twins,  serious enough for them not to practise as Dr's the twins would have been taken away.

Alfie

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You raised the scenario. Are you now distancing yourself from it as it didn't serve your purpose?
No, I stand by every word I have written, but remember it was written with the proviso that it was my opinion only, and not necessarily what actually happened or what Kate said happened.  We know that in your opinion Kate is an evil monster for not taking the twins to the hospital that night, what more can be said or done to dissuade you of this notion?  Nothing, so why should I bother repeating my views about it?
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Offline G-Unit

Are you serious?  Why in God's name wouldn't the police think to test the twins?  Their heavy sleep was even noted by a GNR officer in his statement.

Two GNR officers attended. The deeply sleeping twins were not mentioned in their first statements on 7th May or their second statements on 16th May. They were only mentioned in their third statements made on 17th October. That's after sedation was speculated about in the media.

So they noticed the twins deep sleep, but saw no reason to report it. They remembered it in October after being asked.
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