Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[stephen25000]

I don't think the kidnapper give the twins anything,  such as medicine or tablets.  Though if something was given to Madeleine,  in my opinion it was some chemical that was put on a cloth for her to breath in, could be he then put it briefly under the noses of the twins.   The fact that they were both on their knees asleep,  gives me the impression that they woke up and maybe the kidnapper put something under their noses and they dropped onto their knees asleep.

Ah, now kidnapper, not abductor ?


Neither has been proven to exist.

You do know that, DON'T YOU.

[Mr Gray]

Ah, now kidnapper, not abductor ?


Neither has been proven to exist.

You do know that, DON'T YOU.

Proven on the balance of probabilities

[jassi]

Proven to whom ?

[stephen25000]

Proven to whom ?

No One Jassi.

[stephen25000]

If people check the General Medical Council records....

Kate Marie Healy is not on the specialist register. She is just on the GP register, nothing else.

Fiona Elaine Webster, is on the specialist register from 02/12/2010. Also on GP register.


BOTH are subject to re-validation.


http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/register/LRMP.asp

So neither was a specialist of any kind in May 2007.

Mmm.

Will this be followed by denials ? &%+((£

[Lace]

Ah, now kidnapper, not abductor ?


Neither has been proven to exist.

You do know that, DON'T YOU.

I was going by the heading of this thread.

[Lace]

Whether Kate was thinking rationally is not the point. Kate says she thought her twins may have been sedated and raised her concerns with the police officers present. There is no evidence of this in any of the statements of those present so, rationally, we can only conclude that it didn't happen.

Then no one was taking notice of her,  maybe she was hysterical and didn't make herself clear.

[stephen25000]

I was going by the heading of this thread.

So if this thread title was discussing bright pink fairies with blue spots flying above Heathrow, you would believe it .

Bottom line, an abductor/kidnapper, is unproven.

FACT.

[Mr Gray]

If people check the General Medical Council records....

Kate Marie Healy is not on the specialist register. She is just on the GP register, nothing else.

Fiona Elaine Webster, is on the specialist register from 02/12/2010. Also on GP register.


BOTH are subject to re-validation.


http://www.gmc-uk.org/doctors/register/LRMP.asp

So neither was a specialist of any kind in May 2007.

Mmm.

Will this be followed by denials ? &%+((£

I've explained this to you before
You don't have to be on the specialist register to work as an anaesthetist

[faithlilly]

Then no one was taking notice of her,  maybe she was hysterical and didn't make herself clear.

Her friend was by her side yet didn't notice. Her husband didn't notice either. Yet, strangely, almost to a man the people in the apartment that night heard Kate asking for a priest. Selective hearing indeed.

[stephen25000]

To be a specialist, you require qualifications.

Webster/Payne got hers in 2010.

Healy/McCann hasn't.

Those are FACTS and indisputable.

Merely working in an anesthetics department does not make you an anaesthetist.

[Alfie]

Hardly.

Sedation was not in the statements.

So unless you are on a massive conspiracy bender, sedation was not discussed.

Hardly what?  You think the statements are an accurate record of ever word the witnesses said do you?

[Alfie]

What I think is neither here nor there and neither are Fiona's actions. Kate thought the twins had been sedated yet there is no evidence that she told anyone. It is Kate's actions we are discussing not Fiona's. if you want to question Fiona's actions can I suggest you open another thread.

Fiona Payne's actions are relevant as she was with Kate and with the children.  She is a trained anesthetist also.  She did not apparently see the need to rush the children to hospital, but you who weren't there and aren't a trained anesthetist think they should have been.  How does that work then?  How is it that YOU are a better judge of what should and shouldn't have been done than the doctors who were actually there at the time? 

[Alfie]

Her friend was by her side yet didn't notice. Her husband didn't notice either. Yet, strangely, almost to a man the people in the apartment that night heard Kate asking for a priest. Selective hearing indeed.

Cite for her friend and her husband "not noticing" please.

[faithlilly]

Fiona Payne's actions are relevant as she was with Kate and with the children.  She is a trained anesthetist also.  She did not apparently see the need to rush the children to hospital, but you who weren't there and aren't a trained anesthetist think they should have been.  How does that work then?  How is it that YOU are a better judge of what should and shouldn't have been done than the doctors who were actually there at the time?

She probably didn't see the need as Kate was checking them and apparently didn't see the need. Who was she to second guess the twins own mother?