Kate McCann: I believe kidnapper drugged my twins night Madeleine was taken.

[jassi]

Good of you to recognise that.

However two of the other victims of the crime ... Madeleine's siblings ... were apparently ignored by the police investigators both regarding their personal welfare and their importance as possible vessels carrying evidence.

There is no record of any forensic investigation concerning their persons, the cots they slept in or the bedding on which they slept.
Indeed, they were carried from the scene of the crime wrapped in bedding which could have been evidence.

In the meantime the other victims ... unless you wish to argue the point about who exactly are the victims of such a crime ... have somehow been  metamorphosed into investigators responsible for the crimes scene, from as some would have it,

• sealing off the crime scene
• to ensure that proper diligence regarding the observance of collecting forensic evidence is observed

The police do the investigating.  I do not believe that even Amaral's theory stretched as far as suggesting any suspected drugging of the twins should have been left to their parents to instigate investigating ... do correct me if I am wrong.

What actual crime have you in mind ?  Madeleine has disappeared, cause as yet  unknown.

[Alfie]

Can we have some cites for that?

Start at the beginning of this thread and work through it.  There's a wealth of evidence that people on here believe the McCanns behaved criminally.  Kate McCann has repeatedly been chastised for believing her kids to be sedated and doing nothing to save them - that's criminal isn't it?

[Alfie]

What actual crime have you in mind ?  Madeleine has disappeared, cause as yet  unknown.

Overdosed with sedatives apparently!

[jassi]

Overdosed with sedatives apparently!

Ha, maybe, but that has yet to be established.

[ShiningInLuz]

Good of you to recognise that.

However two of the other victims of the crime ... Madeleine's siblings ... were apparently ignored by the police investigators both regarding their personal welfare and their importance as possible vessels carrying evidence.

There is no record of any forensic investigation concerning their persons, the cots they slept in or the bedding on which they slept.
Indeed, they were carried from the scene of the crime wrapped in bedding which could have been evidence.

In the meantime the other victims ... unless you wish to argue the point about who exactly are the victims of such a crime ... have somehow been  metamorphosed into investigators responsible for the crimes scene, from as some would have it,

• sealing off the crime scene
• to ensure that proper diligence regarding the observance of collecting forensic evidence is observed

The police do the investigating.  I do not believe that even Amaral's theory stretched as far as suggesting any suspected drugging of the twins should have been left to their parents to instigate investigating ... do correct me if I am wrong.

The Lisbon forensic team tested whether anaesthetic had been used on the victim, aka Madeleine.

[Alfie]

Ha, maybe, but that has yet to be established.

And never will be as the opportunity to establish the truth of the matter was completely ignored by the police at the time.

[Brietta]

Were you there ?

You don't know if the other two children were asleep , or unconscious because of sedation.

Please don't be silly ... of course I was not there.  However you have made your post on page sixty seven of a discussion concerning Madeleine's siblings and their deep sleep.  I think it would be safe to conclude that two anaesthetists between them reached their own conclusions.

However the responsibility for that should not have been theirs ... the police investigators failed in their responsibility to cover all the bases particularly the independent medical welfare of the children.

[jassi]

Never say never.   A body might yet  turn up and reveal all.

[Robittybob1]

Overdosed with sedatives apparently!

That would have slowed her down.  She couldn't have walked far on her own.

[stephen25000]

Please don't be silly ... of course I was not there.  However you have made your post on page sixty seven of a discussion concerning Madeleine's siblings and their deep sleep.  I think it would be safe to conclude that two anaesthetists between them reached their own conclusions.

However the responsibility for that should not have been theirs ... the police investigators failed in their responsibility to cover all the bases particularly the independent medical welfare of the children.

You really don't pay attention , do you.

If you had bothered to check, I have repeatedly criticised the police in that respect as well.

[slartibartfast]

Start at the beginning of this thread and work through it.  There's a wealth of evidence that people on here believe the McCanns behaved criminally.  Kate McCann has repeatedly been chastised for believing her kids to be sedated and doing nothing to save them - that's criminal isn't it?

Reprehensible not criminal.

[Brietta]

The Lisbon forensic team tested whether anaesthetic had been used on the victim, aka Madeleine.

Please specify what forensic tests were carried out by the Lisbon forensic team and what the results if any were.

[ferryman]

Reprehensible not criminal.

Is that acknowledgement Amaral screwed up in accusing them of hiding Madeleine's body?

Overdosing Madeleine with calpol?

Driving Madeleine dead in the Renault Scenic?

[Brietta]

You really don't pay attention , do you.

If you had bothered to check, I have repeatedly criticised the police in that respect as well.

You mean that in a thread presently consisting of sixty nine pages you have continually criticised the Portuguese police lack of initial diligence in checking that Madeleine's siblings had not been drugged?

Not only must I not have been paying attention I must just not have bothered reading your posts with the due respect they deserve because I have missed all the ones criticising the investigators for not investigating the drug situation under discussion regarding the twins.

I'm sure you will be able to point me in the right direction, though.  You will of course be able to provide a cite. 

[faithlilly]

Did Fiona say the twins were completely immobile and unresponsive all night long?

Unless you know Fiona and can ask that question the answer is unknowable. What we do know however is that neither she nor Kate say in any statement that the twins woke at any time. You can speculate that they may have but that doesn't make it so.