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Offline John

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #75 on: January 10, 2017, 06:10:30 PM »
Good post.

I think the most revealing post-Praia da Luz assignment of Grime's was the Bianca Jones case in America, mainly for its parallels in Grime's modus operandi with that he adopted in Praia da Luz.

My favourite was the Jersey Haut de la Garenne sniffer dog fiasco branded a £20 million shambles.

The evidence of lavish expenses claims and extraordinary financial waste includes paying £93,000 to Martin Grime, the handler of the sniffer dog Eddie, who was charged with the grim task of finding children’s bodies that were supposedly entombed in concrete in the institution, known as ‘the Jersey House of Horrors’, which closed in 1986.
To date the ‘human remains’ that triggered the storm surrounding the case have turned out to be a piece of coconut shell.


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles.html
« Last Edit: January 10, 2017, 06:14:15 PM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

ferryman

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Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #76 on: January 10, 2017, 06:13:57 PM »
My favourite was the Jersey Haut de la Garenne sniffer dog fiasco.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1217863/Bungled-Jersey-child-abuse-probe-branded-20million-shambles.html

Fiasco is certainly the right word

But at least, in Jersey, innocent reputations weren't mired.

The biggest scandal to emerge from the Haut de la Garenne fiasco is this:

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'Grime made a presentation, showing him [Harper] a video of the dog finding the "scent of death" in Kate and Gerry McCann's car,' the detective said.

Eddie the sniffer dog with handler Martin Grime
False trails: Eddie the sniffer dog with handler Martin Grime

'They were still formal suspects and the case had got worldwide publicity. It seemed to get Lenny very excited. I think Grime kind of bewitched him.'

Grime was handed the video of the 'inspection' of vehicles at PdL so that he could use it for promotional purposes in his (further) freelance career, and used it to promote himself when he auditioned for the gig at HdLG.

If that sounds bad, what is (arguably) worse is that, for that PdL inspection (alone of them all at PdL) he wore the white, anti cross-contamination overalls of his trade.

All very rum
« Last Edit: January 10, 2017, 10:14:30 PM by ShiningInLuz »

Offline G-Unit

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #77 on: January 11, 2017, 12:51:37 PM »
In the nine plus years since Martin Grime was in PdL he appears to have been working through his company GSS International Ltd using the experience and expertise gained during his Police Service. 

The company appears to be solvent and has provided him with an income during those years. That suggests that he is competent in his chosen field. 
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Offline pathfinder73

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #78 on: January 11, 2017, 06:44:24 PM »
Thursday, Aug. 7, 2014

http://www.kitsapgov.com/sheriff/mediareleases/2014/08-07%20Child%20death%20investigation%20update%201.pdf



Child death investigation
East Bremerton, Wash. -- The Kitsap County Sheriff’s Office continues its
investigation into the suspicious death of Jenise Paulette Wright, age six, in East
Bremerton.
Jenise was reported missing by her family Sunday evening, Aug. 3, from her residence
in Steele Creek Mobile Home Park, located off of Old Military Road NE, in East
Bremerton.
Earlier today, search teams located the remains of a child. The body was found around
11:30 a.m., by special agents and professional staff of the FBI’s Evidence Research
Team, in a forested area in the vicinity of Steele Creek Mobile Home Park.
The body is now in the custody of the Kitsap County Coroner. We are awaiting
confirmation of the child’s identity by the coroner; however it appears that the body is
that of Jenise. Sheriff’s detectives expect that formal identification may occur tomorrow.
The family has been notified.
An autopsy will be conducted tomorrow by the county’s forensic pathologist. The
coroner will make a determination as to cause and manner of death.
Initial results of the autopsy will assist detectives in narrowing the investigation toward a
possible suspect.
The FBI’s Evidence Response Team has finished their processing of the scene where
the body was found. The Washington State Patrol’s Criminal Investigation Division is
forensically mapping that location.
This discovery is the result of the coordination of three things: valuable cooperation and
information provided by community, the pursuit of investigative leads and a thorough,
systematic search effort. At this time, there are no arrests in this case.
The assistance of the community is the most critical. The FBI’s national tip line, 1-800-
CALL-FBI, was activated on Monday for this case and remains open.
2
Kitsap County Sheriff Steve Boyer together with Special Agent Frank Montoya, Jr.,
Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Field Office, Seattle, wish to express the
appreciation of the residents of Steele Creek Mobile Home Park, the residents of East
Bremerton and the entire investigation team to the seven members of the FBI’s
Specialty Search Dogs Unit.
After receiving reports from volunteer search and rescue K-9 teams indicating a general
interest in a particular area, it was this team, with their K-9 partners, that located the
child’s body believed to be that of Jenise Wright.

« Last Edit: January 11, 2017, 06:51:12 PM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

stephen25000

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Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #79 on: January 11, 2017, 07:32:46 PM »
Thursday, Aug. 7, 2014

http://www.kitsapgov.com/sheriff/mediareleases/2014/08-07%20Child%20death%20investigation%20update%201.pdf



Child death investigation
East Bremerton, Wash. -- The Kitsap County Sheriff’s Office continues its
investigation into the suspicious death of Jenise Paulette Wright, age six, in East
Bremerton.
Jenise was reported missing by her family Sunday evening, Aug. 3, from her residence
in Steele Creek Mobile Home Park, located off of Old Military Road NE, in East
Bremerton.
Earlier today, search teams located the remains of a child. The body was found around
11:30 a.m., by special agents and professional staff of the FBI’s Evidence Research
Team, in a forested area in the vicinity of Steele Creek Mobile Home Park.
The body is now in the custody of the Kitsap County Coroner. We are awaiting
confirmation of the child’s identity by the coroner; however it appears that the body is
that of Jenise. Sheriff’s detectives expect that formal identification may occur tomorrow.
The family has been notified.
An autopsy will be conducted tomorrow by the county’s forensic pathologist. The
coroner will make a determination as to cause and manner of death.
Initial results of the autopsy will assist detectives in narrowing the investigation toward a
possible suspect.
The FBI’s Evidence Response Team has finished their processing of the scene where
the body was found. The Washington State Patrol’s Criminal Investigation Division is
forensically mapping that location.
This discovery is the result of the coordination of three things: valuable cooperation and
information provided by community, the pursuit of investigative leads and a thorough,
systematic search effort. At this time, there are no arrests in this case.
The assistance of the community is the most critical. The FBI’s national tip line, 1-800-
CALL-FBI, was activated on Monday for this case and remains open.
2
Kitsap County Sheriff Steve Boyer together with Special Agent Frank Montoya, Jr.,
Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Field Office, Seattle, wish to express the
appreciation of the residents of Steele Creek Mobile Home Park, the residents of East
Bremerton and the entire investigation team to the seven members of the FBI’s
Specialty Search Dogs Unit.
After receiving reports from volunteer search and rescue K-9 teams indicating a general
interest in a particular area, it was this team, with their K-9 partners, that located the
child’s body believed to be that of Jenise Wright.



Thanks for posting that Pathfinder. 8((()*/

Clealy Grime as others and me have said, has a successful career.

Offline G-Unit

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #80 on: January 12, 2017, 05:51:49 PM »
It's a mark of how well regarded Grime is that he is used by the FBI. They have all the US to choose from and they chose to bring him over from the UK. He must be extremely good at what he does.
« Last Edit: January 23, 2017, 04:57:03 PM by John »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #81 on: January 12, 2017, 06:46:48 PM »
It's a mark of how well regarded Grime is that he is used by the FBI. They have all the US to choose from and they chose to bring him over from the UK. He must be extremely good at what he does.
How much work does he do for them

Alfie

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Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #82 on: January 12, 2017, 07:11:15 PM »
It's a mark of how well regarded Grime is that he is used by the FBI. They have all the US to choose from and they chose to bring him over from the UK. He must be extremely good at what he does.
Perhaps you could put that remark into context with some actual figures - eg: how many times the FBI have used "cadaver" dogs in the last 10 years, and how many of those times they used Martin Grime. 

Offline Mr Gray

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #83 on: January 12, 2017, 07:23:47 PM »
Perhaps gunit could cite a couple of cases where Grime has made a useful contribution to a prosecution for the FBI

Offline G-Unit

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #84 on: January 12, 2017, 07:30:06 PM »
How much work does he do for them

I expect you can find out if you're interested.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #85 on: January 12, 2017, 07:31:39 PM »
I expect you can find out if you're interested.
I'm not interested as it's of no importance
The alerts are of absolutely no significance

Offline G-Unit

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #86 on: January 12, 2017, 07:32:32 PM »
Perhaps you could put that remark into context with some actual figures - eg: how many times the FBI have used "cadaver" dogs in the last 10 years, and how many of those times they used Martin Grime.

Perhaps you could do it yourself, as you're the one who wants to know?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #87 on: January 12, 2017, 07:36:03 PM »
So it seems no one here knows much about grimes work with the fbi

Offline G-Unit

Re: CSI and cadaver dog expert Martin Grime after Portugal.
« Reply #88 on: January 12, 2017, 08:05:18 PM »
I'm not interested as it's of no importance
The alerts are of absolutely no significance

Oh, I thought you were as you asked. Do you often ask questions you don't want to know the answer to? How strange.

I think we are supposed to be discussing Grime's career since PdL, not going over old ground. There's not much to say though, is there? Just that he seems to have run his company successfully for almost ten years.
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« Reply #89 on: January 12, 2017, 08:07:43 PM »
So it seems no one here knows much about grimes work with the fbi

We know he's been associated with them for years.
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