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Offline Robittybob1

Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1568706/Madeleine-Tapas-Two-want-to-change-story.html

Is there any truth to this story for it actually puts a different spin on the story if the T7 are holding onto vital information.  If there were outside kidnappers involved it doesn't make sense to think the T7 knew anything more than the McCanns did.

How did the press ever get hold of this story?
Can we find changes in the testimony in the T7 rogatory statements?

It sounds like it was a leaked Portuguese source if any: "Two of the friends that dined with Kate and Gerry McCann on the night Madeleine disappeared have told Portuguese police that they want to change their stories, it has been claimed.
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Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #1 on: January 11, 2017, 01:21:25 PM »

By Fiona Govan in Praia da Luz

6:12PM GMT 07 Nov 2007

 Two of the friends that dined with Kate and Gerry McCann on the night Madeleine disappeared have told Portuguese police that they want to change their stories, it has been claimed.

Lawyers acting for the pair are said to have contacted Portuguese detectives leading the enquiry to say their clients are willing to be re-interviewed so they can "correct" their original statements.

The Spanish daily El Mundo reported that the two members of the so-called Tapas Nine - the name given to the McCanns and the seven friends who dined with them on May 3 at their Algarve holiday complex - have asked for their identities to be kept secret.

 "Lawyers of two of the friends of the McCanns that dined with them on the night of May 3 in the tapas restaurant have contacted police recently and said their clients are willing to be requestioned so they can 'correct' details of their original statements," said the El Mundo report.

"These two members of the group have asked for their identities to be kept secret."

The seven holidaying with the McCanns at the Ocean Club in Praia da Luz are Jane Tanner, 37, her partner Dr Russell O'Brien, 36, Dr Matthew Oldfield, 37, his wife Rachael, 36, David Payne, 41, his wife Fiona, 34, and her mother Dianne Webster, 61.

This weekend it was reported that four of them fear they are about to be named formal suspects by Portuguese police.

Mr O'Brien and Ms Tanner, Mr Oldfield and Dr Payne are all said to have consulted their own lawyers in anticipation of being made official arguidos because of apparent inconsistencies in key statements made immediately after Madeleine vanished.

Strict Portuguese secrecy laws have prevented the McCanns and the friends they were holidaying with from speaking publicly about the series of events the night Madeleine disappeared.

But several apparent contradictions have emerged in the six months since the four-year-old went missing, including the timings of events and how much alcohol was consumed on the night.

Clarence Mitchell, the McCanns' spokesman, denied that any of the friends had officially approached the Portuguese police through their lawyers but said that they were happy to be reinterviewed by police if it resolved any apparent inconsistencies and hastened the McCanns being cleared.

"Contrary to a report in the Spanish press, and after consultation amongst Gerry and Kate McCann's friends, I can deny that any approach has been made by their lawyers asking to amend or change the witness statement of any of them," he said.

"Kate and Gerry's friends, who were with them on May 3, have consistently told the truth and remain happy, indeed they are keen, to be reinterviewed by the police if necessary to clarify any inconsistencies in the statements that the police may think they have identified.

"The friends believe that if such interviews or reinterviews take place it can only lead to Gerry and Kate being eliminated from the inquiry swiftly."

The McCanns were declared arguidos by Portuguese detectives in September the day before they finally flew back to the UK after four months in Portugal.

They deny any involvement in their daughter's disappearance and insist she may still be alive.
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Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2017, 01:23:02 PM »
Does this mean we're now going to get a raft of articles from 2007 published on this forum asking if they are true or not?

Offline Carana

« Last Edit: January 11, 2017, 02:36:23 PM by Carana »

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Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #4 on: January 11, 2017, 02:38:59 PM »
Nothing ever came of this.

So why bother now ?

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #5 on: January 11, 2017, 04:52:12 PM »
Nothing ever came of this.

So why bother now ?
How did you work that out?  What sort of analysis have you done?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #6 on: January 11, 2017, 04:59:06 PM »
Erm... no comment. Lol

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2007/11/07/internacional/1194409454.html?a=38aaacc95281a9cc59cc0a09967729cb&t=1194418742
Thanks Carana for the link.  Translated it using Google and it is reasonably readable.
"WILL BE KEPT IN ANONYMOUS FOR FEAR AT PRESSURES
Several friends of the McCanns will change their statement
The researchers distrusted the contradictions of the diners
Madeleine's parents leave a religious office.  (Photo: AFP)
Madeleine's parents leave a religious office. (Photo: AFP)
Updated 07/11/2007 Wednesday 5:24 ( CET )To printSubmit NewsDecrease font sizeIncrease font size
THE WORLD
LONDON | PRAIA DA LUZ .- Lawyers for two of the friends with whom the McCanns had dinner the night of May 3, which disappeared 'Maddie', have contacted the Portuguese police to communicate their intention to "correct" some of the statements they did in interrogations that were submitted, according to report Duarte Levy and Paulo Reis in the Tuesday edition of tHE WORLD.

Both parties have asked that their identity not be disclosed to avoid pressures from the environment of the McCann family.

This change of rudder gives reason to the interest of the Portuguese investigators, who distrusted the contradictions between the seven diners of that dinner to consider the kidnapping as only valid thesis to explain the disappearance of the girl.

Furthermore, substitution of Gonçalo Amaral by Paulo Rebelo responsible for research has led to a rethinking of the case, although not of the hypothesis that assumes Madeleine died . In fact, the results of the analysis of samples collected at the site "are consistent with the possibility that it is dead and there is practically no clue pointing to a kidnapping," according to sources close to the case.

Simultaneously with the Portuguese security forces, the McCann family launched a private investigation through the British company 'Control Risk Group' and the Spanish 'Method 3', dedicated to collect telephone information from potential witnesses with information on the girl."
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #7 on: January 11, 2017, 05:00:49 PM »
Does this mean we're now going to get a raft of articles from 2007 published on this forum asking if they are true or not?
Most have been touched on already but this one has a special character.  Has it been discussed on the forum before?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #8 on: January 11, 2017, 05:10:21 PM »
Thread from 2013 discussing a similar themed subject " Why did the Portuguese Police not come to UK to interview witnesses?" http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1146.msg31957#msg31957

Eleanor seems to have posted the killer point:
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=1146.msg32969#msg32969
"The information demanded was too intrusive, and The PJ were advised to apply for less intrusive information.  They never did.

The Rogatory Interviews were delayed because The Portuguese Applications were not legally correct.  This is important because any information obtained from an illegal application is nul and void and cannot be used in a Court of Law.

Mr. Smith was not subjected to a Rogatory Interview because the application for his presence was made to The UK.  Mr. Smith is a Citizen of Eire and therefor not a UK Citizen.

A post like that and no one asked for a cite!
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #9 on: January 11, 2017, 05:26:27 PM »
Did this statement put the PJ off the idea?
"The friends believe that if such interviews or reinterviews take place it can only lead to Gerry and Kate being eliminated from the inquiry swiftly."
What could they have possibly said that would made that happen?
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Offline jassi

Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #10 on: January 11, 2017, 05:28:50 PM »
Is this thread in danger of developing into another of your monologues ?
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #11 on: January 11, 2017, 05:48:44 PM »
Is this thread in danger of developing into another of your monologues ?
Only if someone else doesn't join in.  Everyone is welcome to contribute.  Have you got something you'd like to say?
I think part of it is I'm on a different time schedule that the rest, I wake up and there are pages of posts I can reply to so you get a burst from me.
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Offline jassi

Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2017, 05:52:23 PM »
Not at the moment, though I shall dip in now and then.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #13 on: January 11, 2017, 05:57:57 PM »
Not at the moment, though I shall dip in now and then.
I thought you'd pop in daily to keep me on my toes.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Article: Madeleine: Tapas Two 'want to change story' - was this true?
« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2017, 06:44:39 PM »
Erm... no comment. Lol

http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2007/11/07/internacional/1194409454.html?a=38aaacc95281a9cc59cc0a09967729cb&t=1194418742

LOL, Carana.  Comment totally superfluous.


THE WORLD
LONDON | PRAIA DA LUZ-lawyers from two of the friends with whom the McCanns dined the night of 3 may, where 'Maddie' disappeared have contacted Portuguese police to communicate their intention to "corregir" some of the statements that made in the interrogation to which they were subjected,

    according to ... Duarte Levy ...  and  ...  Paulo Reis ...  in the edition of EL MUNDO Tuesday. "
http://www.elmundo.es/elmundo/2007/11/07/internacional/1194409454.html?a=38aaacc95281a9cc59cc0a09967729cb&t=1194418742
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....